For our Free Open Source 3D Model of Dealey Plaza, I need to position the sun.
Its location respect to the Plaza, on November 22nd, 1963 at 12:30 pm may be determined here:
NOAA Solar Calculator Find Sunrise, Sunset, Solar Noon and Solar Position for Any Place on Earth
The big question is: what do I do with the data obtained? I will need to do this in either 3ds Max, Revit or both.
TIA,
-Ramon F. Herrera
JFK Numbers
ramon@jfknumbers.org
@ToanDN wrote:
Are you also modeling 1963 buildings? Don't forget building settlement while you are it.
On a related (or not) note, you guys should try [...]
(1) Make that you, Ramon (singular). While the whole JFK Numbers thing is my brainchild, my pride and joy, it has not exactly gone viral. The good news is that after 5 years I have noticed that with more stuff to show, I am getting more interest. You wouldn't believe the Snake Salesmen, bull****ters and backstabbers that tragically compose this case. That is why I decided to focus on "Numbers and Only Numbers - Numbers Do Not Lie"
(2) Yes, the Texas School Book Repository is the main star of the show, but the project is VERY ambitious (one can always dream, can't one?). The laser point cloud donated by one of the producers of the 2013 PBS Nova documentary includes 2 more buildings. Some claim shots came from them. All hypotheses will be studied with the rigor a case like this deserves.
I even contacted the authorities of the most attractive building nearby, the historical Old Red Museum. I offered a deal: "You provide the blueprints and your building will be included"
(3) Building settlement? Didn't think of that! Perchance you know of a qualified, motivated expert who could add that feature?
The most current Revit Model is here:
First Architectural Model of the TSBD Ever Done
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
@barthbradley wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:
Building settlement? Didn't think of that! Perchance you know of a qualified, motivated expert who could add that feature?
You might call Gary Handel, the Architect of the Millenium Tower in San Francisco. Betcha he's an expert on "building settlement" now. His Millenium Tower has sunk 18 inches and tilted 14 inches since it was completed in 2008.
At the time my/your/our model has more immediate needs: lighting fixtures, sprinklers, ceiling pipes, electrical panels, elevators.
I found 3 similar conveyors, need this one modeled:
Famous Floor No. 6, during remodeling:
Electrical Panel:
All the photos available are here:
All known indoor photos of the building
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
ramon@jfknumbers.org
@Anonymous wrote:
@barthbradley wrote:
BTW: what was the cloud coverage on that day? You know it had just stopped raining prior to the motorcade arriving at Dealey Plaza.
The weather is known.
That wasn't my question. I asked if you knew what the cloud coverage was over Dealey Plaza on that fateful day in history. The topic of this thread revolves around figuring the EXACT position of the Sun in the sky over Dealey Plaza at 12:30PM on 11/22/63, so I assume lighting is important to your "forensic" Model study. If so, EXACT cloud sizes, densities and locations in the sky also matter. Know what I mean, jelly bean?
@barthbradley wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:
@barthbradley wrote:
BTW: what was the cloud coverage on that day? You know it had just stopped raining prior to the motorcade arriving at Dealey Plaza.
The weather is known.
That wasn't my question. I asked if you knew what the cloud coverage was over Dealey Plaza on that fateful day in history. The topic of this thread revolves around figuring the EXACT position of the Sun in the sky over Dealey Plaza at 12:30PM on 11/22/63, so I assume lighting is important to your "forensic" Model study. If so, EXACT cloud sizes, densities and locations in the sky also matter. Know what I mean, jelly bean?
I was afraid you would catch me. You are too smart for me, Barth!
In other forums (JFK related, SolidWorks, elsewhere) people are also puzzled.
Let me put it this way: Right now, people who call themselves "experts" on JFK minutia (but cannot tell a logarithm from an algorithm, much less a mambo rhythm) are reading this thread. They have wondered how seeing such detail as the brick texture, color of "NO PARKING" on the curb (black on red in 1963), or the serial number of the Coca-Cola machine, plus the fact that it is possible to design two keys for the mailboxes at cylinder LOD (one is able to open the USPS contraption, the other is not) can possibly help in the solution of the crime of the centuries.
Circa 1963 Coca-Cola Vending Machine at SketchFab
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BTW: The historical records for the USPS (blueprints, colors, dates, manufacturers, etc) are in the National Archives. I can innocently ask for those, right? They have no reason, no excuse to deny me access to those, Our Records, correct?
"The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind":
The Stallion Mounting Strategy
Have to dig some material, but as usual...
"I'll be back"
-Ramon The Terminator of all the BS Herrera
JFK Numbers
ramon@jfknumbers.org
You're infatuated with yourself; aren't you @Anonymous? Gooood for you. Never let anybody rain on your parade. Just move pass them with a smile on your face and a spring in your step.
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, Zip-a-dee-ay!
@barthbradley wrote:You're infatuated with yourself; aren't you @Anonymous? Gooood for you. Never let anybody rain on your parade. Just move pass them with a smile on your face and a spring in your step.
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, Zip-a-dee-ay!
Yes and no. I am amazed at what I have discovered. At the fact that the solution is so clear and yet has not made much progress. Millions were watching and NOBODY saw anything.
Every statement that I have made can be verified.
In fact, I would be the happiest man alive if this load were taken from my shoulders. I want ZERO credit. Why do you think I am keeping this low, underground profile, hiding among my techie peers?
The most fundamental position of JFK Numbers is that we (Barth, Ramon, the JFK "researchers") are NOT qualified to solve this case. I am NOT a scientist, I don't play one on Usenet, much less on TV, BUT I know where to find them.
Question: Let's say that there is a petition to have the authoritative entities: MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Oxford, etc. working on the models and equations using FEA, CFD, simulations described here:
Numerical Analysis - Simulation of Cramium and Cerebrum Ballistics
If the top universities and leading centers of 3D education were invited to inspect, criticize and improve the work currently done.
Would you support it?
If there were a parallel initiative to bring a high end film digitizer into the Sacred Room in order to make copies with the utmost fidelity. That way it would be possible to determine once and for all by the scientific community whether the autopsy X-rays are genuine or have been manipulated, falsified in some way. From there, once the 3 DICOM files are obtained (have a quote: they gave me a 50% pro bono discount) an extremely accurate 3D model of the cranium can be extracted by these folks (or others, you are welcome to find other research groups):
3D Reconstruction of Anatomical Structures from 2D X-ray Images
Would you support it?
Feel free to use whatever words you prefer in the petition. I am trying to get the heck out of that level.
Note: "I don't like the idea because I don't like its author" is NOT an appropriate response. This is not a Miss Congeniality contest.
You may contact Gene Morris at the National Archives. He was named as the point of contact between the JFK Numbers projects (Donations of 3D Models of Craniums and Plazas, cosigned by ALL parts). They have given their preliminary approval, pending that of the Kennedys for bringing a film digitizer. He told me: "Mr. Herrera, the Archives has no problem, we just have to certify the equipment to be used" (attached).
-Ramon F. Herrera
JFK Numbers
ramon@jfknumbers.org
