False Rafter Tails
Are you saying you want to create something similar to these? Are you wanting it to be applied or a part of the actual rafters or are they separate decorative elements?
Here is a quick face based family that just has a void in it that cuts the host. All you have to do is click the end of the beam at the bottom center.
It is saved as a Generic Model but you can change the category if you want. You can also make it more parametric so you have some control over the shape.
I have attached a version which adds the rafter tail onto the end. The issue is that you will see the lines of the connection point and you are not able to joint the 2 pieces.
Also, I did it as a void so that you actual beam families can be drawn full length and then have material be removed, instead of having to stop your beams/framing short and then adding the extender on.
"cut with voids when loaded" does not need to be checked in this situation. That is used for families that have voids in them that do not already cut the host in the family.
Mike- Just finished inserting and working with the last family. Works great and is the general idea as to what I was hoping for!
Out of curiousity, which family did you start with to create this? Assuming a Generic Model (GM in your naming convention.... thinking about robbing that lol. Might be helpful down the road with knowing which family the family was created with in the tree.... or another purpose perhaps).
I'm wrestling with coming to terms with the potentially appropriate various Generic models I can choose from for these (and other similar items down the road.
These would be my options (I think) from the templates (hilighted). Have no idea what an "adaptive component" is for.... even after reading a little on it so forget that one for the time being probably.
But the others seem pretty straight forward.... with line based the least straight forward. But after reading looks like this would allow me to array an item along a line which might be useful (or a hindrance) on some level for these rafter tails and or rafters etc (I would think). Probably some limitations here though.
So really, if want to keep things relatively simple then thinking the decision would be between Face Based, Wall Based and Vanilla "Generic Model".
Curious as to your/ other's thoughts about these choices and why choose one over the other.
@Mike.FORM wrote:I have attached a version which adds the rafter tail onto the end. The issue is that you will see the lines of the connection point and you are not able to joint the 2 pieces.
Also, I did it as a void so that you actual beam families can be drawn full length and then have material be removed, instead of having to stop your beams/framing short and then adding the extender on. That sounds like a cool solution and appropriate for what I'm doing as well. So, help me out here. You can model a shape and have it act as both a void and a "part"? Meaning, as you state it can be a void (cut out of something it is positioned on top of) and still show up at the same time? And it doesn't have to be a void in and of itself? Can you elaborate on how you assign it this way so can act as both?
"cut with voids when loaded" does not need to be checked in this situation. "That is used for families that have voids in them that do not already cut the host in the family". This kind of has my brain swimming. I'm not familiar with voids in family's and truthfully, the whole concept of voids I guess. So, not really following here. I am however following your void example where the rafter tail voids out the rafter.... I think. So that's progress lol.
Getting somewhere with this!
Some questions.
- Is it possible to rotate the surface that the extrusion will attach to to vertical? Would be more intuitive for trying to draw extrusions that would typically be attached to a wall face. If not maybe I should just be using the generic wall model family. Any downside to that?
-While the extrusion I created does work when loaded into the model, I can't figure out a way to align it accurately to the bottom of the soffit. Can't tab>select the face of the family or lines or points or anything else to align to the face of the soffitt. What am I missing here? Suggestions?
-Also, I would like to be able to assign a length parameter to this but having issues. Basically saying I'm overconstrained. Have tried dimensioning from both the reference plane and the face of the "extrusion" that is a part of the template family (not the extrusion I created) and to the end of what is the rafter tail. Ended up being able to assign a length parameter when dimensioned from face of extrusion to tip of rafter tail (which is what I want for my model) but length doesn't change when flexed.... over constrained. Also have no idea why the length parameter is floating out in space in the 3D view.
Thought I had this part fixed.
Can't get this in the correct orientation without rotating in the family. Reason I say thought I had it fixed is because it originally looked like this when loaded so I changed the family orientiation to as I sent earlier and when I reloaded into the model it rotated correctly. But..... was cleaning things up in my model so deleted the old version and reloaded the updated version again and now it's rotating weird again. Any way to fix this so it sticks in the vertical orientation?
Well... I found some bugs in this thing.
- Still need to rotate when insert.
- The depth parameter isn't working
-And the biggest issue is that for whatever reason aligning to the bottom of the soffit isn't working like I thought it was. No matter what I do when select the bottom of the soffit in section and a top line on the tail when i try and align them there is a gap between the 2 in the end result. It's as though this gap gets smaller and smaller each time I align but it doesn't appear to ever truly align. Would really like to get to the bottom of what this issue is. I checked the origin in the family and it appears to be correct if that matters.
