Curtain Wall Schedule

[jfjacques]

I have a few curtain walls. 

1- How do I add the curtain walls to a window schedule. I could do it with casements...Is that the best way? 

2- How do I tag curtain walls with window tags? Again I could do it by adding casements to every window but I don't know if there's a better way. 

[ToanDN]

You can schedule the curtain walls as a wall schedule, but it doesn't give you the windows, doors, and panels in the curtain walls.

For those, use window, door, curtain panel schedules.

You can tab over the windows, doors, curtain panels in the curtain wall to tag them individually.

[jfjacques]

If I create  Panel Schedule, 

The type Mark for all panels always remains the same. I can't change any without changing them all. 

Also I can't tag these with window if their type is glazed. I have to change them into a casement in order to be able to tag them. Does casement stand in for window in revit and not specifically a type of window opeining? 

My issue with making them all Casements is that I have to be careful of dimensions as these are casements within a curtain wall. 

[ToanDN]

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@jfjacques wrote:

If I create  Panel Schedule, 

The type Mark for all panels always remains the same. I can't change any without changing them all. 

Edit the tag family and change the label to mark, not Type Mark so that you can number them independently.

Also I can't tag these with window if their type is glazed. I have to change them into a casement in order to be able to tag them. Does casement stand in for window in revit and not specifically a type of window opeining? 

Glazed means they are still curtain panels, so you need to use Curtain panel tag.  You can have any type of window: casement, fixed, awning, hopper, louver, sliding, etc in a curtain wall.  there are no restrictions.  you just need to build or download or steal these window families to use them.

My issue with making them all Casements is that I have to be careful of dimensions as these are casements within a curtain wall. 

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[barthbradley]

anybody mention "Window Tag - Multi Category.rfa"?  

[bin]

You can change the curtain panel to window category. 

[jfjacques]

thanks for the detailed answer, clarifies a lot. 

@jfjacques wrote:

If I create  Panel Schedule, 

The type Mark for all panels always remains the same. I can't change any without changing them all. 

Edit the tag family and change the label to mark, not Type Mark so that you can number them independently.

If I change the label to mark, I can enter individual numbers but I have to do this manually.I guess what I'm wondering about is why the type mark creates a count for windows but not for individual panels and if there's a way to have an automatic count for the panels as well?  

While I'm at it, whats the most efficient way to orderly number windows?

Also I can't tag these with window if their type is glazed. I have to change them into a casement in order to be able to tag them. Does casement stand in for window in revit and not specifically a type of window opeining? 

Glazed means they are still curtain panels, so you need to use Curtain panel tag.  You can have any type of window: casement, fixed, awning, hopper, louver, sliding, etc in a curtain wall.  there are no restrictions.  you just need to build or download or steal these window families to use them. 

Ok, is there a way to place the glazed panels on the same schedule as the windows? Can I convert them to windows as someone has suggested? If I try to create a multi-category schedule I can't limit this to windows and panels.

My issue with making them all Casements is that I have to be careful of dimensions as these are casements within a curtain wall. 

[jfjacques]

how? 

[bin]

2 Options:

1. Tab select a single curtain wall panel, Edit-in-place, Family Category, change to a window, Finish editing.

This panel will become a window and show in the window schedule, but it will no have the width and height information. You also need to manually type in the mark. 

2. Create a new curtain wall panel family, or edit an existing curtain wall panel family, go to Family Category and change it to a window, rename an load into the project.

Now, for an existing curtain, you can still do the option 1 steps and change a single curtain wall panel into a window, with the width and height information of that panel, but you still need to manually type in the mark.

If you create a new curtain wall type and define the new window type panel as curtain panel, Revit will automatically mark all the panels in it.

What I normally do is to mark all the panels in 1 curtain wall as the same mark, add new manual project parameters 
(width, height and sill height) for window category, then I manually type in the width height and sill height in my window schedule.  I don't like this method to be honest, so I avoid the curtain wall if I can.

Does anyone have a better method?

[dwane]

Or just make a Wall Schedule, that is filtered to only show your Curtain Walls. 

I use this method all the time. & haven't used Windows in years!

It won't give you specific Head Heights or Sill Heights etc, but you can Schedule its Length & Area, and then get the Height with some Calculated Parameters.

On the end we also dim them up in a Schedule Elevation anyway

If you want to tag it - Then use a Wall Tag that you edit to look like a Window Tag

[Leaf_Architecture]

Curtain walls don't schedule..!

[azad.Nanva]

I use the Multi-Category tag and that is so useful and neat. all the tags below is samethings. tag for Curtain Wall , Structure, Walls, Detail Items,etc.

[F_Giorlando]

Whenever possible I make all curtainwalls un-wall hosted window families.  Some cannot get over the nomenclature - get over it, the Revit Family type name is irrelevant.  Others resist losing the easy on-the fly editing of the Curtain Walls.  Early on this flexibility is useful, but after that it is a detriment;  - bite the bullet and model it as a parametric Window Family.  Much easier to work with, more stable, easier to schedule....