copy & paste detail group from one plan view to another plan view
If you use normal Paste (CTRL + V), can you see it? With groups, you can actually use normal paste and see a purple grip when you hover it over the proximity area, and it will snap to align.
Regarding snapping to origin/node, there are options for Centers (SC) and Points (SX). You can see if these are turned on in the Snaps dialog (Manage -> Settings -> Snaps).
Regarding the missing pasted group, if you have not already done so I would suggest checking if there are one (or more) duplicated instances of the group in the same place as the original one.
(You could use the temporary hide command after selecting one of the instances, and if you still see an instance of the group then there was more than one in the same place).
If you are finding that there are group instances on top of each other, check the elements in the group to see if they are hosted to other elements specific to the level (like floors, walls, etc.), other than the level itself. In this case Revit isn't able to place/host into the new level and a copy is placed into the original host object.
Lance Coffey
Technical Support Specialist
This is interesting.
I wouldn’t expect detail lines to be hosted to something from the original view.
Have you looked through the items in the following blog post for other items that may prevent the pasted group from being displayed in the view?
Missing Something in a Revit View? 33 Steps to Find Stuff.
Lance Coffey
Technical Support Specialist
If you are still looking into where the group is being placed, try using the following steps:
1. Paste the group. (after pasting it should be selected by default, be careful about clicking anywhere that would clear the selection)
2. Click the Manage Ribbon Tab
3. Click the IDs of Selection command (on the Inquiry Ribbon Panel).
4. Copy the Element ID of the newly pasted group.
5. Go to the original view
6. If the selection is lost, use the Select by ID command (also on the Inquiry Ribbon Panel) to select the element again.
7. If nothing is visibly selected in the view, use the Isolate Element (HI) to hide unselected elements, and see if it is visible (you may need to use Zoom Extents to focus on the only visible element).
If the steps above do not display the element, try creating a new Default 3D view, and go through steps 6 & 7 again.
Lance Coffey
Technical Support Specialist
Thank you for the update.
I'm not clear if you are saying that you can see the pasted group in the original view, or if you are saying that you isolated the group before pasting, and then pasted and isolated and you don't see anything.
If you can see the pasted group (selecting by ID) in the original view, but not in the view that you pasted it into, then this would indicate that the group is being placed into the original level, and if the view you pasted into is on a different level you would need to look into what in the group would be hosted to geometry in the original view (preventing it from being placed in a different level/location).
Since you are only seeing detail lines in the group, one approach would be to create a separate instance of the group (in the original view) ungroup that instance, select only the detail items, create a new group, and try copying the new group.
Can you clarify the following?
- What is the element ID of the original group?
- What is the element ID of the pasted group?
- Is the pasted group (selected by element ID) visible in the original view?
- Is the level of the original view and the view you are pasting the group into different?
- Does ungrouping and creating a new group (selecting only the detail lines) clear the issue?
Lance Coffey
Technical Support Specialist