Automatically apply view template to new drafting views

[Darin_HDR]

Am I missing something or is the whole applied automatic view template a huge oversight when it comes to drafting views.

Meaning, when I create a drafting view, I can't select the drafting view type until after the drafting view is created. From what I can tell (though I have not done a deep exploration of this) drafting views are always created on the default Drafting View type. So, since the "View Template applied to new views" parameter only is ever applied at the creating of a view, this parameter only works with the default Drafting View type. No matter what I set the "View Template applied to new views" parameter to in the other Drafting View types, I will always have to manually switch the view template from the default Drafting View type, if it is not the view template I want applied to the view.

Hopefully that is all understandable. 

So I guess I want to know if I am missing something or if there is a way to select the Drafting View type before it is created.

Thanks.

[syman2000]

You can click on EDIT TYPE and add view template. Everytime you create new drafting view, it will use that template.

[Darin_HDR]

@syman2000 thank you for your reply.

I was aware of this peramiter, the issue is in selecting which Drafting View type to create before you create it. Revit applies the Drafting Type for you when it creates the view and does not give you the option to select the Drafting View type before the view is created.  So this peramiter only ever works with the single Drafting View type (the default Drafting View type that Revit selects each time). If you create a new drafting view type (let’s just call it "Test"), can you get Revit to automatically apply a template to it? After a view is created, the parameter “View Template applied to new views” is ineffective. Even if you switch the view type, it does not apply.

Sorry, I thought I clarified that I was using this perimeter and the inability to select the view type before creating the view was the issue.   

[syman2000]

Revit don't have the ability to allow you to choose drafting type when you create new. My workaround is have the same view template for drafting detail as newly created drafting type. Once you create new drafting view than swap it to your other type of drafting view.

[Darin_HDR]

Yeah, unfortunately this workaround doesn't work when it needs to be implemented company wide each time a view is created. I wish I worked with a bunch of people who are diligent about applying a view templates to views after they are created, but that simply doesn't happen. Seems like this is a huge oversight by Autodesk to not let us select the drafting view type before we create it.

It would be nice if we could get someone from Autodesk (maybe @lim.wendy) to confirm if this is an oversite by Autodesk to allow the functionality of pre-selecting a drafting view type or if there is a fix we are missing. 

Thanks again for your responses!

[RobDraw]

If you want this functionality, there are other places to air your grievances and request new features. T

[Darin_HDR]

@RobDraw thanks for chiming in though I think you are mistaken about my request. Let me try to simplify my request for you or any others who might stumble across this thread now or in the future.

1) I'm not asking for a new feature, I am asking if an existing feature, the parameter "View Template applied to new views" can be applied to all drafting view types (upon creation of a new drafting view) or just the one drafting view type that seems to be the default whenever you make a new drafting view. Maybe more importantly, is there a way to select the drafting view type, before creating it as this seems to be the only way to get this feature to work as intended. 

2) Can someone else confirm if they create a new drafting view type, that they also are not able to find a way to automatically apply a view template to it.

3) If it is in fact the case that one cannot automatically apply a view template to a new drafting view types (not to be confused with just applying it to a drafting view because it does do that), is Autodesk aware of this (hence why I asked Autodesk to chime in on this thread). 

Thanks again to anyone who takes the time to offer some useful advice.

[RobDraw]

If you are still in doubt, you're not paying attention.

If you want verification from Autodesk, why are you asking in a user help forum?

Why aren't you asking how someone might get the same result without this functionality?

[Darin_HDR]

@RobDraw

 I thought this was where Autodesk wanted us to come to get answers to our questions, be that a solution to problems or verification of issues. I thought this was a forum were I could ask the community but I could reach out to Autodesk as well. Are there not Autodesk representatives that peruse these forums? Does Autodesk not want to be made aware of issues with their software? If there is a better avenue for running this by Autodesk, could you please give me suggestions? Just because I asked for Autodesk to chime in, did not mean I didn't want the help and support of the community with this item.

Finding a work around is usually the outcome when trying get some functionality out of Revit that is not natively built in. I am sorry if I gave the impression I was not open to this, but I thought when asking for a solution, it was  a given that I would be open to this.

I was simply looking for verification that others saw the same thing I did (confirmed), that I was not missing some existing functionality within Revit (I guess confirmed) and leaving it open for suggestions on how to get this functionality through other means. I am sorry if I offended you with the way I worded my inquiry. 

RobDraw, since we are getting way off topic, and to keep this thread clean, please message me directly if you have a response to any of this that is not related to the original subject of automatically applying view templates to drafting views. I would have messaged you directly....but you blocked me. 

[RobDraw]

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@Darin_HDR wrote:

I would have messaged you directly....but you blocked me. 

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For a very good reason, too.

Good day and good luck!

[Darin_HDR]

Right, because you don't like people politely challenging your condescending nature and god complex in a, non-public forum. At least I got the moderator to remove your posts that were just plain rude and offered no advise or help. No need to respond (though I know you will not be able to help yourself).

[RobDraw]

Yeah, you're so smart while you contradict yourself. So, what if you don't like my comments. Ignore them and move on and don't inject yourself into my inbox and insult me.

[GlynnisVP]

Hi Darin,

I agree that this is an oversite. While it's possible to predefine the view type for plans, elevations, and sections, it is not possible to predefine the view type choice for drafting views, legends, or schedules. It would be a nice feature improvement.

Best Regards,

Glynnis Patterson

www.ideatesoftware.com

[ToanDN]

I have create a bank drafting view for each view type and assigned it with a view template, named it the same as the view type. Then I just duplicate view instead of creating a new drafting view each time.

[RobDraw]

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@GlynnisVP wrote:

I agree that this is an oversite.

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How do you know it is an oversite? That makes it sound like the Revit programmers just forgot to turn on the switch. That hardly seems like a logical reason.

[Edwin.Rense]

It seems the creation of new drafting views always applies the <none> template.

In this You-tube movie there is another method explained which you might use instead.

I believe it may save you a lot of grieve and frustration.

It only takes another work method than you may be used to.
But implementing this might method may be the only way to go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r5KKWjRKzQ

(I'm not the poster of this movie, but could make use of it. Kudos to original poster.)

[RobDraw]

Can you please tell us where in the video it addresses applying view templates. I'm all too familiar with the workflow of standard details and didn't see where a view template was even applied when I skimmed through it.

[Edwin.Rense]

@RobDraw 
It is not about applying template but transfering views with viewtemplates from a completed project (or template).
So not creating new view and applying templates but rather importing them as a whole.

[Darin_HDR]

Thank you @GlynnisVP , @ToanDN and @Edwin.Rense for your help and insights. Please do not engage RobDraw on this thread. He seems to be very helpful and intelegent individual on other threads but for some reason he has decided to only argue the volidity of other's responses rather than offer his own helpful advice. RobDraw, as I know you will read this comment, please just move on from this thread, you are a great assest to this forum, just not here. 

[_dalewfd]

Few years late to the party but agree with OP, seems a huge oversight to be able to pre-assign the View Types (and therefore View Template) for sections, elevations, plans, but not for drafting views. 

It's a similar story when creating new 3D views. I created a thread on the Idea board but got no reactions. Will update it now to include drafting views as well:

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/assign-view-type-when-saving-creating-3d-views/idi-p/1199...