Another wall joint question....

[EdMilbourn]

Hi, I'm aware there are already many posts on wall joints but after trawling through these I could not find a solution (maybe no solution exists).

See attached screenshot.

I need the cavity insulation to be continuous so I have made this layer the core of the wall. All good so far.

However, with this wall makeup the internal masonry partition walls run into the cavity.

The two workarounds I have found are not really satisfactory.

1/ don't clean joint - this ends the masonry partition at the plaster finish - not how it would built on site. Also, from my understanding this solution is only a view specific graphic 'fix' that does not change the revit model.

2/ disallow joint - I can drag the partition wall end to the masonry face of the cavity wall but this does not remove the plaster finish.

Any pointers much appreciated.

[EdMilbourn]

I should have prefaced this with: I'm using Revit LT 25

[Niko_Davydov]

Hi @EdMilbourn ,
I'm not exactly sure what settings need to be adjusted, but to solve your issue, you need to modify the function of the structures. This solution has already been discussed somewhere, so you could simply search for it online.

Best regards,

Nikolai Davydov

[EdMilbourn]

Thank you Niko_Davydov

I have looked at these solutions and have tried various suggestions.

I have tried all the combinations of layer functions I can think of but none solve the issue.

The closest I could get is to have the masonry partition running into the inner skin of the cavity wall (and not extending into the cavity). Again - not how it would be built on site.

The only way I could achieve this was to change the function the masonry structure of the partition wall into a 'finish'.

This is completely illogical. Is it really the case that revit layer functions do not bear any relation to the real world?

[SteveKStafford]

Like Functions clean up (and materials) with each other so a Structural function should be inside the core and the finishes should be organized like this: Finish 1 (for exterior), Finish 2 (for interior).

[ToanDN]

Like this?

[EdMilbourn]

Thank you Steve.

Yes, the way you have described is how I've always used the functions - correctly, logically ordered.

However, there appears to be a suggestion (on the forum generally) that to make wall joints behave correctly you have to 'play around' with the position of the core and the function of each layer.

[EdMilbourn]

Hi ToanDN

Yes, exactly like that. But also like this (...see below).

I only seem to be able to achieve one or the other.

Thanks for your response.