Add Grid Bubble NOT At End of Grid Line

Add Grid Bubble NOT At End of Grid Line

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Add Grid Bubble NOT At End of Grid Line

Anonymous
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Is there a way to locate a Grid Bubble somewhere besides the end of the grid line?

 

I have concentric, C-shaped, multi-segmented grid lines - And I want the grid bubbles for those lines to be at the mid point of the 'C' instead of at the ends of the 'C'. Is that possible? Or does anyone have thoughts on a work around that could get the job done? (i.e. a line-based grid bubble that could show up on all plans (and not have to be copied and pasted in place for each plan).

 

Thanks!

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ToanDN
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You can overlay two view, each show a half of a grid, with one bubble.

 

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Anonymous
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What worries me about that solution, is if we have 30-40 plan drawings, that's a lot of doubling up to manage.

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ToanDN
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You can create 40-50 dependant views from a single view.

 

Or, instead of one grid, make it into two grids, turn on bubble for one and not the other.

 

Or, create the bubbles as generic model objects with nested generic annotation for  label. Draw a vertical model line spanning all levels in the family so that the bubbles will show on all levels when placed on the bottom level.

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Anonymous
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I suggest posting this in the Ideas thread...

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/idb-p/302/tab/most-recent

 

You're wanting a feature that Revit can only perform with workarounds....

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RDAOU
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@Anonymous

 

I would recommend that you go with the 2 grids ...less mess in the Project Browser and a couple of grids more are never a waste...

 

@Anonymous 

the idea is there but I heard they are or might be extending the ability to control Center Segment to cover Circular grids as well. But till that happens 2 Grids are a Revit can do

 

 

 

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Alfredo_Medina
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That would be incorrect. Even if you create another grid that has the bubble turned off, that grid will still exist with some id; let's call it "x". If you place a structural column at the intersection of grid "1" and the fake "x" grid, if you make a graphical column schedule, the location of that structural column is going to report its location as "1-x", but the grid "x" is not labeled in the drawings anywhere. 


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ToanDN
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Grids can overlap. When place the structural colums, just turn off the 'fake' grids and extend the 'real' grids to provide intersections. The structural colums will report the real grid id.
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Alfredo_Medina
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In my opinion, putting fake grids in the model just because someone wants a different look for the bubble is just creating issues with graphical column schedules. This is something I would reject in a model. This is one of the many things that go into the department of "not because you can it means you should"


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RDAOU
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@Alfredo_Medina wrote:

That would be incorrect. Even if you create another grid that has the bubble turned off, that grid will still exist with some id; let's call it "x". If you place a structural column at the intersection of grid "1" and the fake "x" grid, if you make a graphical column schedule, the location of that structural column is going to report its location as "1-x", but the grid "x" is not labeled in the drawings anywhere. 


 

 

@Alfredo_Medina I wouldn#t say incorrect in this case; I would say you are absolutely wrong ... again !! Did you even try it? or tried to test how it works?

 

 

  1. Technically speaking dual grids IS NOT incorrect - Even with a second grid having no Label
  2. Practically Speaking when it Comes to Revit...What you described is wrong.  See screencast below
  • Column will place on the bubbled grid and not the facke one -
  • Even when not selecting the bubbled grid
  • And when scheduling...the right grids will be used for Location mark

Next time try it first...if one never tried or used something before it doesn't mean that it doesn't function as required.

 

 

@ToanDN one doesn't even need to switch off or extend anything...it just works

 

 

 

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RDAOU
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In reality it is a grid just like any other...AND  It is a fake when one wants to call or refer to it as a fake sometimes for Differentiation and Sometimes when one just needs an excuse to justify his rejection an old-new idea which he isn't able to Digest

 

That being said (Fake vs/Real) What is fake? and what is real?! Who say's all grids require bubbles and what is the purpose of a bubble? And who says whether two or more grids may be aligned or shouldn't be aligned? and if when they align they should receive same Bubble?!

 

 

 

 

 

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Alfredo_Medina
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This is what I am saying:

 

 

Fake grids on the left. True grids identified as 1 and 2, on the right. A horizontal grid intersects radial grids 1 and 2.2017-02-16_8-49-13.png

In the graphical column schedule, the location of the column is correct for 2 of the columns, and wrong for the others. 

 

 

2017-02-16_8-16-43.png

In this case, grid 3 and 4 are not labeled anywherein the plans. These grids will have to exist and be labeled with their own number, or the columns need to have an extra indication about sector or area in the project. 

 


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RDAOU
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You are amazing!

 

I put a screencast for u to watch, I use same tools of the same software u r using, I even use cross window selection so u won't say I tab picked one specific grid over the other to make it work! AND here you are again!!! I take it that either you didn't try or you tried and didn't manage...because OTHERWISE it would be either MAGIC or Telepathy what makes it work on my computer but not on yours!  

 

But hey! keep trying 🙂 you'll eventually crack the mystery; UNLESS it is one of those cases where one does not want something to work! Because after all it's a built-in feature and Revit will pick the right grids; no scripts or magic involved.

 

 

 

 

 

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I know this is about a year old, but during my search I couldn't find a way to add a bubble in the middle, but I did come up with a workaround for me. I created a symbol that matches my grid bubble and place the annotation in the view. You could just copy and paste to all the views you need to. I attached the family if anyone wants it. It uses instance parameter for grid name and type parameter for bubble size just like normal grid bubbles. 

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