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Sketching T&T

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Sketching T&T

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Ever since the beginning of the universe, Inv has had a problem identifying
user lines as opposed to projected lines. In particular Inv can have a "duck
fit" when it tries to apply a Coincident constraint to a projected line.

Until Adsk give us the option of having Reference Construction & Reference
Centre lines instead of just having Reference Normal lines, we as users will
continue to have a problem.

I have one solution that works for me.

Turn off Auto Projection.

When you want to project geometry make sure that you have first selected
Construction.

You'll have to describe to complete region with a Normal line - from which
you want to make a feature - but you'll find that Inv can now tell the
difference between Normal and Reference a lot easier.


HTH



--
Duncan
"Humour ... is one man shouting gibberish in the face of authority, and
proving by fabricated insanity that nothing could be as mad as what passes
for ordinary living."
(Terence 'Spike' Milligan K.B.E., 1918-2002)
www.autodesk.co.uk/inventorjobs
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
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Sketching T&T

Ever since the beginning of the universe, Inv has had a problem identifying
user lines as opposed to projected lines. In particular Inv can have a "duck
fit" when it tries to apply a Coincident constraint to a projected line.

Until Adsk give us the option of having Reference Construction & Reference
Centre lines instead of just having Reference Normal lines, we as users will
continue to have a problem.

I have one solution that works for me.

Turn off Auto Projection.

When you want to project geometry make sure that you have first selected
Construction.

You'll have to describe to complete region with a Normal line - from which
you want to make a feature - but you'll find that Inv can now tell the
difference between Normal and Reference a lot easier.


HTH



--
Duncan
"Humour ... is one man shouting gibberish in the face of authority, and
proving by fabricated insanity that nothing could be as mad as what passes
for ordinary living."
(Terence 'Spike' Milligan K.B.E., 1918-2002)
www.autodesk.co.uk/inventorjobs
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
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Anonymous
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Anonymous
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Duncan,

As far as I know you can turn any sketch geometry (normal, projected or auto-projected, adaptive or non) into construction and/or centerline geometry using the toggle buttons.

You can also change the individual elements of derived sketches to construction (or centerline), which I find very handy when using a single master sketch to define the geometry of several related parts.

Paul Cunningham

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Duncan,

As far as I know you can turn any sketch geometry (normal, projected or auto-projected, adaptive or non) into construction and/or centerline geometry using the toggle buttons.

You can also change the individual elements of derived sketches to construction (or centerline), which I find very handy when using a single master sketch to define the geometry of several related parts.

Paul Cunningham

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Anonymous
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Anonymous
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"As far as I know you can turn any sketch geometry (normal, projected or
auto-projected, adaptive or non) into construction and/or centerline
geometry using the toggle buttons."

See "Linetype of sketch geometry" in Help.

There are only four linetypes; Normal, Construction, Centerline & Reference.

"Reference
If your sketch is projected from a part edge, it is automatically assigned
a Reference linetype. Reference geometry is associative so that if the part
face it is associated with is modified, the reference geometry automatically
updates.


If you change reference geometry to another linetype it loses its
associativity."


The current Reference linetype is seen by Inv as being like the Normal
linetype when creating features.

I'd like to see Options of; Ref Normal, Ref Construction & Ref Centreline
with a default of Ref Construction.

I've already submitted this as a Wish.

In the meantime I'll continue to recommend my T&T.



--
Duncan
"Humour ... is one man shouting gibberish in the face of authority, and
proving by fabricated insanity that nothing could be as mad as what passes
for ordinary living."
(Terence 'Spike' Milligan K.B.E., 1918-2002)
www.autodesk.co.uk/inventorjobs
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375



wrote in message news:6220561@discussion.autodesk.com...
Duncan,

As far as I know you can turn any sketch geometry (normal, projected or
auto-projected, adaptive or non) into construction and/or centerline
geometry using the toggle buttons.

You can also change the individual elements of derived sketches to
construction (or centerline), which I find very handy when using a single
master sketch to define the geometry of several related parts.

Paul Cunningham
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"As far as I know you can turn any sketch geometry (normal, projected or
auto-projected, adaptive or non) into construction and/or centerline
geometry using the toggle buttons."

See "Linetype of sketch geometry" in Help.

There are only four linetypes; Normal, Construction, Centerline & Reference.

"Reference
If your sketch is projected from a part edge, it is automatically assigned
a Reference linetype. Reference geometry is associative so that if the part
face it is associated with is modified, the reference geometry automatically
updates.


If you change reference geometry to another linetype it loses its
associativity."


The current Reference linetype is seen by Inv as being like the Normal
linetype when creating features.

I'd like to see Options of; Ref Normal, Ref Construction & Ref Centreline
with a default of Ref Construction.

I've already submitted this as a Wish.

In the meantime I'll continue to recommend my T&T.



--
Duncan
"Humour ... is one man shouting gibberish in the face of authority, and
proving by fabricated insanity that nothing could be as mad as what passes
for ordinary living."
(Terence 'Spike' Milligan K.B.E., 1918-2002)
www.autodesk.co.uk/inventorjobs
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375



wrote in message news:6220561@discussion.autodesk.com...
Duncan,

As far as I know you can turn any sketch geometry (normal, projected or
auto-projected, adaptive or non) into construction and/or centerline
geometry using the toggle buttons.

You can also change the individual elements of derived sketches to
construction (or centerline), which I find very handy when using a single
master sketch to define the geometry of several related parts.

Paul Cunningham
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Anonymous
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Anonymous
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Hi Duncan,

I'm using IV2008, and the help reads as you quoted, but it is wrong when it says "If you change reference geometry to another linetype it loses its associativity". (maybe a holdover from earlier verions?)
As I said, you can change projected geometry to construction or centerline style, and it will maintain its associativity.
Help is also rather misleading when it refers to a reference 'linetype', as reference status is denoted by color rather than linetype.
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Hi Duncan,

I'm using IV2008, and the help reads as you quoted, but it is wrong when it says "If you change reference geometry to another linetype it loses its associativity". (maybe a holdover from earlier verions?)
As I said, you can change projected geometry to construction or centerline style, and it will maintain its associativity.
Help is also rather misleading when it refers to a reference 'linetype', as reference status is denoted by color rather than linetype.
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Anonymous
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Anonymous
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Changing linetype on reference geometry has no effect on the
reference or adaptivity.

 


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Changing linetype on reference geometry has no effect on the
reference or adaptivity.

 


--
Dennis Jeffrey, Autodesk Inventor Certified
Expert
Autodesk Manufacturing Implementation Certified
Expert.
Instructor/Author/Sr. App Engr. Tel. (260) 399-6615
AIP 2008 SP3,
AIP 2009-SP2, IV2010 ProPcCillin AV
AMD 64 x2 3.0 Ghz, 8GB RAM GeForce 9800GT
512MB
XP Pro SP3, XP Pro64 SP2,  Windows XP Silver Theme

href="http://teknigroup.com">http://teknigroup.com
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Anonymous
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Anonymous
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It was Subscription Support that pointed me to that reference in the Help
... !

I would still like the default, for projected geometry to be Construction
(Ref)


--
Duncan
"Humour ... is one man shouting gibberish in the face of authority, and
proving by fabricated insanity that nothing could be as mad as what passes
for ordinary living."
(Terence 'Spike' Milligan K.B.E., 1918-2002)
www.autodesk.co.uk/inventorjobs
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375



"Dennis Jeffrey" wrote in message
news:6221200@discussion.autodesk.com...
Changing linetype on reference geometry has no effect on the reference or
adaptivity.


--
Dennis Jeffrey, Autodesk Inventor Certified Expert
Autodesk Manufacturing Implementation Certified Expert.
Instructor/Author/Sr. App Engr. Tel. (260) 399-6615
AIP 2008 SP3, AIP 2009-SP2, IV2010 ProPcCillin AV
AMD 64 x2 3.0 Ghz, 8GB RAM GeForce 9800GT 512MB
XP Pro SP3, XP Pro64 SP2, Windows XP Silver Theme
http://teknigroup.com
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It was Subscription Support that pointed me to that reference in the Help
... !

I would still like the default, for projected geometry to be Construction
(Ref)


--
Duncan
"Humour ... is one man shouting gibberish in the face of authority, and
proving by fabricated insanity that nothing could be as mad as what passes
for ordinary living."
(Terence 'Spike' Milligan K.B.E., 1918-2002)
www.autodesk.co.uk/inventorjobs
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375



"Dennis Jeffrey" wrote in message
news:6221200@discussion.autodesk.com...
Changing linetype on reference geometry has no effect on the reference or
adaptivity.


--
Dennis Jeffrey, Autodesk Inventor Certified Expert
Autodesk Manufacturing Implementation Certified Expert.
Instructor/Author/Sr. App Engr. Tel. (260) 399-6615
AIP 2008 SP3, AIP 2009-SP2, IV2010 ProPcCillin AV
AMD 64 x2 3.0 Ghz, 8GB RAM GeForce 9800GT 512MB
XP Pro SP3, XP Pro64 SP2, Windows XP Silver Theme
http://teknigroup.com

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