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Rename Origin Planes

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Anonymous
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Rename Origin Planes

Anonymous
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I am creating some new template files. Is it correct that I am able to rename the origin planes in a part file but not in an assembly file? I would like to rename the origin planes to "TOP", "RIGHT" and "FRONT".
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Rename Origin Planes

I am creating some new template files. Is it correct that I am able to rename the origin planes in a part file but not in an assembly file? I would like to rename the origin planes to "TOP", "RIGHT" and "FRONT".
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zma1013
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I don't know if you can rename the origin planes or not. Never tried it.

But I'm not sure it's such a good idea to specifically name them Front, Right, and Top as this may create some confusion for people later on when you start assembling parts together. You may run into situations where you're constraining the Front plane of one part to the Top plane of another part and as I said it may cause some confusion. On second thought though, I guess I never really pay attention to the default origin names anyways, I always just highlight them and visually check to make sure that the orientation is the proper way I want it.
IV2012

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I don't know if you can rename the origin planes or not. Never tried it.

But I'm not sure it's such a good idea to specifically name them Front, Right, and Top as this may create some confusion for people later on when you start assembling parts together. You may run into situations where you're constraining the Front plane of one part to the Top plane of another part and as I said it may cause some confusion. On second thought though, I guess I never really pay attention to the default origin names anyways, I always just highlight them and visually check to make sure that the orientation is the proper way I want it.
IV2012

Windows XP SP3 32-bit
Intel Core 2 Duo 6400 @ 2.13 GHz
Nvidia Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI 256MB Vram
2 GB Ram
160GB HDD
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Anonymous
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A little consistancy between part and assembly files would provide less confusion.
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A little consistancy between part and assembly files would provide less confusion.
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zma1013
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I'm just saying your part's Front plane isn't going to necassarily match up with your assemblies Front plane. Try it out and see, I've not done it and I actually don't look at the names of the origins myself.
IV2012

Windows XP SP3 32-bit
Intel Core 2 Duo 6400 @ 2.13 GHz
Nvidia Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI 256MB Vram
2 GB Ram
160GB HDD
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I'm just saying your part's Front plane isn't going to necassarily match up with your assemblies Front plane. Try it out and see, I've not done it and I actually don't look at the names of the origins myself.
IV2012

Windows XP SP3 32-bit
Intel Core 2 Duo 6400 @ 2.13 GHz
Nvidia Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI 256MB Vram
2 GB Ram
160GB HDD
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swalton
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You are correct, as far as I know. (IV2009). I would like to rename assembly origin planes as well. Most of my designs run on a railroad. I don't usually care how the part planes and the assembly planes line up, but it would be nice to re-name the xz plane as "Top-Of-Track" and the xy plane as "Rail-Centerline" in my templates so all of my users build their assemblies with these references.

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You are correct, as far as I know. (IV2009). I would like to rename assembly origin planes as well. Most of my designs run on a railroad. I don't usually care how the part planes and the assembly planes line up, but it would be nice to re-name the xz plane as "Top-Of-Track" and the xy plane as "Rail-Centerline" in my templates so all of my users build their assemblies with these references.

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Message 6 of 12
Anonymous
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All of our equipment is located in space with
respect to three planes - the furnace centerline, the centerline of the
discharge table, and the passline.  We use skeletal modeling
techniques extensively.  Our part templates have the origin planes
renamed to conform to our aforementioned standard, but we can't do that with the
assemblies (and actually, that's where they're needed the most).  It would
be nice.






brian r.
iwaskewycz


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specialist


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href="http://www.corefurnace.com/">core furnace systems

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All of our equipment is located in space with
respect to three planes - the furnace centerline, the centerline of the
discharge table, and the passline.  We use skeletal modeling
techniques extensively.  Our part templates have the origin planes
renamed to conform to our aforementioned standard, but we can't do that with the
assemblies (and actually, that's where they're needed the most).  It would
be nice.






brian r.
iwaskewycz


style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">inventor
specialist


style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">
href="http://www.corefurnace.com/">core furnace systems

Message 7 of 12
Anonymous
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As a workaround, I have an assy template with user planes named 'Mach CL', 'Mach Dir Origin' and 'Floor', constrained to the appropriate origin plane and grounded, that I use as substitute origin planes. One drawback is that they can get shuffled around in the browser during the course of a project.

Paul Cunningham
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As a workaround, I have an assy template with user planes named 'Mach CL', 'Mach Dir Origin' and 'Floor', constrained to the appropriate origin plane and grounded, that I use as substitute origin planes. One drawback is that they can get shuffled around in the browser during the course of a project.

Paul Cunningham
Message 8 of 12
Anonymous
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Andrew

In the company I work for we have internal rules about how to place our components according to the origin planes.

Renaming the origin planes in assemblies, as it is possible in the part files, will be a great help in our daily work.

So maybe Autodesk will make this possible in a future version of Inventor.????

Thomas
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Andrew

In the company I work for we have internal rules about how to place our components according to the origin planes.

Renaming the origin planes in assemblies, as it is possible in the part files, will be a great help in our daily work.

So maybe Autodesk will make this possible in a future version of Inventor.????

Thomas
Message 9 of 12
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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I've done essentially the same thing, Paul. 
It's just a bit aggravating to have to create three additional workplanes that
are identical to the origin planes solely for the purpose of naming
them.






brian r.
iwaskewycz


style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">inventor
specialist

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I've done essentially the same thing, Paul. 
It's just a bit aggravating to have to create three additional workplanes that
are identical to the origin planes solely for the purpose of naming
them.






brian r.
iwaskewycz


style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">inventor
specialist

Message 10 of 12
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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But if you make that assembly a template, you only had to do it once,
right?

brian r. iwaskewycz wrote:
> I've done essentially the same thing, Paul. It's just a bit aggravating
> to have to create three additional workplanes that are identical to the
> origin planes solely for the purpose of naming them.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *brian r. iwaskewycz*
> */inventor specialist/*
> *core furnace systems <>*
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But if you make that assembly a template, you only had to do it once,
right?

brian r. iwaskewycz wrote:
> I've done essentially the same thing, Paul. It's just a bit aggravating
> to have to create three additional workplanes that are identical to the
> origin planes solely for the purpose of naming them.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *brian r. iwaskewycz*
> */inventor specialist/*
> *core furnace systems <>*
Message 11 of 12
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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Yes, naturally.  It just looks out-of-place,
having three grounded workplanes at the top of the assembly browser when there's
already three perfectly good (though unnamable) ones inside the origin
folder.

 

It's already happened before that we got a new
Inventor designer in here, was working on some piece of equipment, and somewhere
along the way, deleted our workplanes.  His assembly was no longer located
in space correctly with respect to the passline, centerline of furnace, and
centerline of discharge table.  When asked why he found it necessary to
delete them, he said, "I didn't know what they were and just used the origin
planes instead."  Now I'm certainly not blaming Autodesk or anyone else for
that matter for what effectively was a failure to communicate a procedural
protocol and convention to him, but things would have clearer if the origin
planes themselves could bear the names of their real-world
counterparts.

 

That's all I'm going to post on this
subject.  It's such a minor gripe that it's not even worth griping
about.  Autodesk, just let us rename assembly workplanes - honestly, how
hard could it be?






brian r.
iwaskewycz


style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">inventor
specialist


style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">core furnace
systems
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Yes, naturally.  It just looks out-of-place,
having three grounded workplanes at the top of the assembly browser when there's
already three perfectly good (though unnamable) ones inside the origin
folder.

 

It's already happened before that we got a new
Inventor designer in here, was working on some piece of equipment, and somewhere
along the way, deleted our workplanes.  His assembly was no longer located
in space correctly with respect to the passline, centerline of furnace, and
centerline of discharge table.  When asked why he found it necessary to
delete them, he said, "I didn't know what they were and just used the origin
planes instead."  Now I'm certainly not blaming Autodesk or anyone else for
that matter for what effectively was a failure to communicate a procedural
protocol and convention to him, but things would have clearer if the origin
planes themselves could bear the names of their real-world
counterparts.

 

That's all I'm going to post on this
subject.  It's such a minor gripe that it's not even worth griping
about.  Autodesk, just let us rename assembly workplanes - honestly, how
hard could it be?






brian r.
iwaskewycz


style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">inventor
specialist


style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">core furnace
systems
Message 12 of 12
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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Correction of last sentence -

 

Autodesk, just let us rename assembly origin
planes
- honestly, how hard could it be?






brian r.
iwaskewycz


style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">inventor
specialist

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Correction of last sentence -

 

Autodesk, just let us rename assembly origin
planes
- honestly, how hard could it be?






brian r.
iwaskewycz


style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">inventor
specialist

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