Note Leaders - Center text over a vertical extension line

[Anonymous]

I am wondering if there is a way to center leader text over a vertical extension line.

So the text will read horizontally and the leader and extension will extend out from the bottom of the center of the text.

I have attached an example of what I am looking for (this was done using a workaround of a multileader without text and a textbox superimposed above it.

Thanks in advance!

-Matt

[Anonymous]

I am wondering if there is a way to center leader text over a vertical extension line.

So the text will read horizontally and the leader and extension will extend out from the bottom of the center of the text.

I have attached an example of what I am looking for (this was done using a workaround of a multileader without text and a textbox superimposed above it.

Thanks in advance!

-Matt

[The_Angry_Elf · Accepted solution]

If I'm not mistaken, what you are showing is not to any drafting standard such as ASME, etc. thus the reason it's not a default style in the software.

I'd say it would be best to create this type of a label as a custom Sketch Symbol and thus insert it as needed under that annotation command.

[The_Angry_Elf · Accepted solution]

If I'm not mistaken, what you are showing is not to any drafting standard such as ASME, etc. thus the reason it's not a default style in the software.

I'd say it would be best to create this type of a label as a custom Sketch Symbol and thus insert it as needed under that annotation command.

[Curtis_Waguespack]

Hi matthew.cassera,

What version of Inventor are you using? There have been some changes to this in Inventor 2017 I think.

In any case, try this:

Create the Leader and text.

Then select the leader landing line and drag it vertically.

Then add another leader.

And make sure the style has the option to justify the text is off (unchecked).

I hope this helps.
Best of luck to you in all of your Inventor pursuits,
Curtis
http://inventortrenches.blogspot.com

[Curtis_Waguespack]

Hi matthew.cassera,

What version of Inventor are you using? There have been some changes to this in Inventor 2017 I think.

In any case, try this:

Create the Leader and text.

Then select the leader landing line and drag it vertically.

Then add another leader.

And make sure the style has the option to justify the text is off (unchecked).

I hope this helps.
Best of luck to you in all of your Inventor pursuits,
Curtis
http://inventortrenches.blogspot.com

[Anonymous]

I am working with Inventor Professional 2016. As such, this method does not seem to work in this version.

As I drag the extension line to the vertical position the text rotates with it. Thanks, anyway. I will continue with a workaround.

-Matt

[Anonymous]

I am working with Inventor Professional 2016. As such, this method does not seem to work in this version.

As I drag the extension line to the vertical position the text rotates with it. Thanks, anyway. I will continue with a workaround.

-Matt

[Curtis_Waguespack]

Hi matthew.cassera,

You're correct, this was modified in 2016 as discussed here:

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/2017-leader-text-orientation/m-p/6590362#M615009

I hope this helps.
Best of luck to you in all of your Inventor pursuits,
Curtis
http://inventortrenches.blogspot.com

[Curtis_Waguespack]

Hi matthew.cassera,

You're correct, this was modified in 2016 as discussed here:

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/2017-leader-text-orientation/m-p/6590362#M615009

I hope this helps.
Best of luck to you in all of your Inventor pursuits,
Curtis
http://inventortrenches.blogspot.com

[dan_inv09]

Is there an IdeaStation post for "Change it back!"?

[Is the "Jerks!" implied or do we need to type out "Change it back, jerks!"?]

Or at least to give us the option to do both?

If I have to start one, please help me out with suggestion on how to best word it: "Leader text vertical tail" "Leader text orientation options" "Leader text tail control" etc. ??

[dan_inv09]

Is there an IdeaStation post for "Change it back!"?

[Is the "Jerks!" implied or do we need to type out "Change it back, jerks!"?]

Or at least to give us the option to do both?

If I have to start one, please help me out with suggestion on how to best word it: "Leader text vertical tail" "Leader text orientation options" "Leader text tail control" etc. ??

[dan_inv09]

I found one

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-ideas/leader-text-automatically-aligns-with-leader-not-alway...

And this one looks like the cause of the problem

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-ideas/align-leaders/idi-p/3785385

It appears to have only taken 15 votes to get implemented, as of right now the one above is at 14 ... so if anybody still watching this thread hasn't voted for "Leader text automatically aligns with leader - Not always useful" please do so now. Thank you.

[dan_inv09]

I found one

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-ideas/leader-text-automatically-aligns-with-leader-not-alway...

And this one looks like the cause of the problem

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-ideas/align-leaders/idi-p/3785385

It appears to have only taken 15 votes to get implemented, as of right now the one above is at 14 ... so if anybody still watching this thread hasn't voted for "Leader text automatically aligns with leader - Not always useful" please do so now. Thank you.

[Curtis_Waguespack]

Hi dan_inv09,

Here's a link to the Idea forum. Please add to the comments if I did not capture it completely.

Add option for centered leader text (restore behavior from Inv 2015 & previous)

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-ideas/add-option-for-centered-leader-text-restore-behavior-f...

 Edit:

Oooops! I was creating a new one as you posted.

I'll request that mine be marked as a duplicate.

I hope this helps.
Best of luck to you in all of your Inventor pursuits,
Curtis
http://inventortrenches.blogspot.com

[Curtis_Waguespack]

Hi dan_inv09,

Here's a link to the Idea forum. Please add to the comments if I did not capture it completely.

Add option for centered leader text (restore behavior from Inv 2015 & previous)

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-ideas/add-option-for-centered-leader-text-restore-behavior-f...

 Edit:

Oooops! I was creating a new one as you posted.

I'll request that mine be marked as a duplicate.

I hope this helps.
Best of luck to you in all of your Inventor pursuits,
Curtis
http://inventortrenches.blogspot.com

[The_Angry_Elf]

I'm thinking they decided to finally follow ANSI/ASME standards on this one?

"... They should be brief and should be carefully worded so as to be capable of only one interpretation. Notes should always be lettered horizontally on the sheet...  The leader should be attached at the front of the first word of a note, or just after the last word, and not at any intermediate place."

[The_Angry_Elf]

I'm thinking they decided to finally follow ANSI/ASME standards on this one?

"... They should be brief and should be carefully worded so as to be capable of only one interpretation. Notes should always be lettered horizontally on the sheet...  The leader should be attached at the front of the first word of a note, or just after the last word, and not at any intermediate place."

[dan_inv09]

But what about, "should always be lettered horizontally on the sheet"?

[dan_inv09]

But what about, "should always be lettered horizontally on the sheet"?

[The_Angry_Elf]

Seems pretty clear to me....;)

If I recall (and don't really quote me on this) ANSI/ASME states text to be such. I know other industry standards like ISO allow text and dims to be vertical or at an angle but I'm pretty sure ANSI/ASME does not.

Give me a few and I'll look into it and touch base with someone I know is a ANSI wonk.

[The_Angry_Elf]

Seems pretty clear to me....;)

If I recall (and don't really quote me on this) ANSI/ASME states text to be such. I know other industry standards like ISO allow text and dims to be vertical or at an angle but I'm pretty sure ANSI/ASME does not.

Give me a few and I'll look into it and touch base with someone I know is a ANSI wonk.

[The_Angry_Elf]

OK, based on everything I'm finding (other than the specific verse ***UPDATE*** ASME section 1.7.5.2), all examples I'm seeing in my ANSI Y14.5 publishings and my ANSI wonk, all dimensional and notational text on an engineering drawing are to be horizontal only. Must be readable looking at the drawing straight on.

The only possible exception could be for ISO views, but that's one I'm not sure of.

Same deal goes for all text must be capitalized, text in lower case are explanatory only and should not appear of official drawings.

[The_Angry_Elf]

OK, based on everything I'm finding (other than the specific verse ***UPDATE*** ASME section 1.7.5.2), all examples I'm seeing in my ANSI Y14.5 publishings and my ANSI wonk, all dimensional and notational text on an engineering drawing are to be horizontal only. Must be readable looking at the drawing straight on.

The only possible exception could be for ISO views, but that's one I'm not sure of.

Same deal goes for all text must be capitalized, text in lower case are explanatory only and should not appear of official drawings.

[NigelHay]

My drawing standard is set to ISO but the leader text still rotates with the leader line even though, as you say, the ISO standard allows horizontal text with a vertical leader. This worked really well in 2016 until AutoDesk 'fixed' it.

[NigelHay]

My drawing standard is set to ISO but the leader text still rotates with the leader line even though, as you say, the ISO standard allows horizontal text with a vertical leader. This worked really well in 2016 until AutoDesk 'fixed' it.

[dan_inv09]

They have a history of of taking two or three people saying, "Could we have the option of doing it another way." and believing, "Everybody absolutely hates the way it was working, let's make it so they can't do it that way ever again!!!!"

[It's got to be like just a bunch of Pointy Haired Bosses with a couple of Wallys at meetings there.]

[dan_inv09]

They have a history of of taking two or three people saying, "Could we have the option of doing it another way." and believing, "Everybody absolutely hates the way it was working, let's make it so they can't do it that way ever again!!!!"

[It's got to be like just a bunch of Pointy Haired Bosses with a couple of Wallys at meetings there.]