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Chamfers on Drawings

Anonymous
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I am currently doing a drawing for a part where I have a 0.25mm chamfer on 2 edges. However, one of those edges is on a diagonal face, so the 0.25mm chamfer is being shown as 0.33 (see below). Is this the correct notation for the chamfer? I understand why Inventor is displaying 0.33, as the slanted face extends the chamfer slightly, but the chamfer used on the model was 0.25mm.

alextyler_0-1595943809559.png

 

Do I leave the notation as it is, or do I need to manually change it to C0.25?

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Chamfers on Drawings

I am currently doing a drawing for a part where I have a 0.25mm chamfer on 2 edges. However, one of those edges is on a diagonal face, so the 0.25mm chamfer is being shown as 0.33 (see below). Is this the correct notation for the chamfer? I understand why Inventor is displaying 0.33, as the slanted face extends the chamfer slightly, but the chamfer used on the model was 0.25mm.

alextyler_0-1595943809559.png

 

Do I leave the notation as it is, or do I need to manually change it to C0.25?

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Message 2 of 24
andrewiv
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Personally, I hate manually overriding dimensions on drawings, this is not AutoCAD.  But you cannot simply leave it with an incorrect value either.  I would create a view that shows the chamfer correctly.

Andrew In’t Veld
Designer

Personally, I hate manually overriding dimensions on drawings, this is not AutoCAD.  But you cannot simply leave it with an incorrect value either.  I would create a view that shows the chamfer correctly.

Andrew In’t Veld
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Message 3 of 24
Cadmanto
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My suggestion (this is what I do when confronted with a similar instance) would be to delete the .33 chamfer and place a "2X" in front of the .25 chamfer callout.

 

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My suggestion (this is what I do when confronted with a similar instance) would be to delete the .33 chamfer and place a "2X" in front of the .25 chamfer callout.

 

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Message 4 of 24
Anonymous
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Might look into this, quite like that idea. My only issue with that is it doesn't denote where the second chamfer is. Can I add multiple arrows to one measurement?

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Might look into this, quite like that idea. My only issue with that is it doesn't denote where the second chamfer is. Can I add multiple arrows to one measurement?

Message 5 of 24
CGBenner
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Was the Chamfer created with the chamfer tool?  And, was the dimension placed using the Chamfer dimension tool?  Using the chamfer dimension tool, as long as you choose the right references, I believe, it should reflect the values you entered when creating the feature.

CGBenner_0-1595947133132.png

 


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Was the Chamfer created with the chamfer tool?  And, was the dimension placed using the Chamfer dimension tool?  Using the chamfer dimension tool, as long as you choose the right references, I believe, it should reflect the values you entered when creating the feature.

CGBenner_0-1595947133132.png

 


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Message 6 of 24
Anonymous
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I did use the chamfer tool. Please see my chamfer settings below:

alextyler_0-1595947462117.png

 

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I did use the chamfer tool. Please see my chamfer settings below:

alextyler_0-1595947462117.png

 

Message 7 of 24
Cadmanto
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2X is a commonly used practice as per ASME spec.

Yes, you can add a second leader to point to the second chamfer.  This would eliminate the confusion of where it is.

CHAMFER.jpg

 

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2X is a commonly used practice as per ASME spec.

Yes, you can add a second leader to point to the second chamfer.  This would eliminate the confusion of where it is.

CHAMFER.jpg

 

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Message 8 of 24
andrewiv
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Try selecting a different reference edge when creating your chamfer note on the drawing.

 

In the pic below I created a 0.25 chamfer in the model.  The bottom note is using a vertical line as the reference edge and the top note is using a horizontal line as the reference edge.

Chamfer.PNG

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Try selecting a different reference edge when creating your chamfer note on the drawing.

 

In the pic below I created a 0.25 chamfer in the model.  The bottom note is using a vertical line as the reference edge and the top note is using a horizontal line as the reference edge.

Chamfer.PNG

Andrew In’t Veld
Designer

Message 9 of 24
CGBenner
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@Anonymous 

 

Playing with this a little bit, you can get different dimension results depending on the references you choose.  In my poorly drawn image below, the dimensions were placed using the same color references.  The red dimension is the correct value based on the feature settings.  You may have to simply change the dimension references using the Chamfer dimension.

 

CGBenner_0-1595948273400.png

 


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@Anonymous 

 

Playing with this a little bit, you can get different dimension results depending on the references you choose.  In my poorly drawn image below, the dimensions were placed using the same color references.  The red dimension is the correct value based on the feature settings.  You may have to simply change the dimension references using the Chamfer dimension.

 

CGBenner_0-1595948273400.png

 


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Message 10 of 24
Anonymous
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I can't get this feature to work. I click Add Vertex / Leader, and no matter what I click I can't get another Leader to appear. Any advice?

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I can't get this feature to work. I click Add Vertex / Leader, and no matter what I click I can't get another Leader to appear. Any advice?

Message 11 of 24
Anonymous
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I just tried this. By selecting a horizontal reference, I can get C0.24. Seems like that should be right, I'm just not sure why it's not reading 0.25.

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I just tried this. By selecting a horizontal reference, I can get C0.24. Seems like that should be right, I'm just not sure why it's not reading 0.25.

Message 12 of 24
CGBenner
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@Anonymous wrote:

I just tried this. By selecting a horizontal reference, I can get C0.24. Seems like that should be right, I'm just not sure why it's not reading 0.25.


What is the actual dimension of your feature?  It may be just a precision issue with the dimension itself?  The decimal precision can be set globally in your Dimension styles, but can also be overridden by double clicking on the dimension and selecting Precision and Tolerance.


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@Anonymous wrote:

I just tried this. By selecting a horizontal reference, I can get C0.24. Seems like that should be right, I'm just not sure why it's not reading 0.25.


What is the actual dimension of your feature?  It may be just a precision issue with the dimension itself?  The decimal precision can be set globally in your Dimension styles, but can also be overridden by double clicking on the dimension and selecting Precision and Tolerance.


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Message 13 of 24
Anonymous
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The x is 0.238 and y is 0.325, so that's why they're displaying wrong. Not 100% sure why the x value is not 0.25, as I would've thought this would be the reference dimension for the chamfer?

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The x is 0.238 and y is 0.325, so that's why they're displaying wrong. Not 100% sure why the x value is not 0.25, as I would've thought this would be the reference dimension for the chamfer?

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I can get it to work.  When you select the note and select what I said in my previous posting, then select the second chamfer and run leader back to the original chamfer note to merge the two.

 

CHAMFER1.jpg

 

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I can get it to work.  When you select the note and select what I said in my previous posting, then select the second chamfer and run leader back to the original chamfer note to merge the two.

 

CHAMFER1.jpg

 

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CGBenner
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@Anonymous 

 

That is interesting.  Can you share the part file here so I can have a look?


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@Anonymous 

 

That is interesting.  Can you share the part file here so I can have a look?


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johnsonshiue
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Hi! Please take a look at the following thread. It may apply to your case.

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/chamfer-distance-x-angle-problem/m-p/9547292

 

Many thanks!

 



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
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Hi! Please take a look at the following thread. It may apply to your case.

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/chamfer-distance-x-angle-problem/m-p/9547292

 

Many thanks!

 



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Message 17 of 24
IgorMir
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I knew I had replied to a similar post before! 🙂

 


@johnsonshiue wrote:

Hi! Please take a look at the following thread. It may apply to your case.

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/chamfer-distance-x-angle-problem/m-p/9547292

 

Many thanks!


 

Web: www.meqc.com.au

I knew I had replied to a similar post before! 🙂

 


@johnsonshiue wrote:

Hi! Please take a look at the following thread. It may apply to your case.

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/chamfer-distance-x-angle-problem/m-p/9547292

 

Many thanks!


 

Web: www.meqc.com.au
Message 18 of 24
Anonymous
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Hi, following on from what this article said, I tried manually inputting distances and using a distance and an angle, but for some reason that didn't work either. It's a work project, not personal, so I can't share the files (IPR reasons), but I'll provide you some more screenshots (below):

alextyler_0-1596007928243.png

alextyler_1-1596008003393.png

The scenario has changed slightly. If I select an x or a y reference, the chamfer value given is 0.37, whereas it used to display different values. That's confusing me even more, as to me that means it is completely ignoring the 0.25 rule?

 

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Hi, following on from what this article said, I tried manually inputting distances and using a distance and an angle, but for some reason that didn't work either. It's a work project, not personal, so I can't share the files (IPR reasons), but I'll provide you some more screenshots (below):

alextyler_0-1596007928243.png

alextyler_1-1596008003393.png

The scenario has changed slightly. If I select an x or a y reference, the chamfer value given is 0.37, whereas it used to display different values. That's confusing me even more, as to me that means it is completely ignoring the 0.25 rule?

 

Message 19 of 24
johnsonshiue
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Hi Alex,

 

If possible, please share the part here. There should be a logical reason to explain it. The images do not help me understand the issue better.

Many thanks!

 



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
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Hi Alex,

 

If possible, please share the part here. There should be a logical reason to explain it. The images do not help me understand the issue better.

Many thanks!

 



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer
Message 20 of 24
Anonymous
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Please see the attached part file.

 

Please see the attached part file.

 

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