SVG insert in Fusion is SCALED !

SVG insert in Fusion is SCALED !

cekuhnen
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SVG insert in Fusion is SCALED !

cekuhnen
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The pdf reads out dimensions which in AI are correct

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In Fusion the sketch is scaled:

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is there something I am missing? Can the scale factor be turned off before import? Other wise SVG import is kinda pointless.

Claas Kuhnen

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HughesTooling
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I think the scale is wrong in the SVG file, if you open in notepad or view source in a brouser you get this.

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cekuhnen
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If I load an SVG into AI it all is correct size wise.

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HughesTooling
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The SVG file units are in pixels, this is the start of the file. Width = 264px 

 

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looking here.  http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/syndata.html#length-units

 

1px is about 0.28mm so that's the scale you're seeing. For now does the program producing the SVG have any options to save in mm.

 

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cekuhnen
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It is Adobe Illustrator and the units system is set to mm.

 

If you open an SVG file in AI it is to scale. So if there is some sort of conversion going on in AI

then Fusion should do it as well - other wise the SVG format is kinda pointless.

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HughesTooling
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Yes I agree Fusion should be looking at the scale in the file. I've been working on a basic SVG exporter for Rhino, it works quite well in mm. I'll have to do some tests in inches and see if Fusion scales inch files or if it just imports as unitless at the moment.

 

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IanMantula
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No, SVG is fine. It's just the use of pixels as a unit of measure for a vector format that makes little sense. Pixels aren't a fixed size, so what do they mean? Windows and Mac always had different sized pixels, now with 4k and retina screens it's even more difficult to know what it means.

 

I use Corel Designer X7 and that exports SVG with the same UoM as the source drawing. 

 

Ian

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prainsberry
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Hey the problem is that in Fusion pixels are looked at as the document units.  To correct this on import you can use the scale in the import dialog.  In Ilustrator if you are using 72 pixels/in then import into Fusion in an inches document you would scale by 1/72.

 

I ahve been doing this recently with good results.

 

This is a known issue and is being looked at.



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cekuhnen
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@prainsberry Thanks for the explanation. Best would be to adjust this so it simply works or if the SVG format is a problem simply support different vector formats such as AI PDF DXF or so.

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prainsberry
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Totally agree and this is being looked at I know.  As you know you can get DXF through cloud translatation today but there is no local translation available at this point.  It is being looked at but comes at a higher complexity than you might imagine.  



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cekuhnen
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@prainsberry I know that via cloud you could upload it but honestly I find that approach insufficient and time consuming.

For a single file sure, but multiple files just drag down your work speed. I had one time drawings and I waited one hour for everything to process.

After that experience I went back to Rhino for that task.

 

I think besides the ability to upload into the cloud which is great for online data storage Fusion just has to be able what everybody else can do: load files locally.

 

You should see the faces of people I introduce Fusion to when they realize that restriction and it is percieved in a very negative way.

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prainsberry
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Funny you mention that... Get excited for the Fusion release this weekend...

 

2D DXF/DWG will still be in the cloud though, for the time being.  



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cekuhnen
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@prainsberry Oahhh you guys make my wife hate me now even more 😉 Looking forward to this weekend's update !

Claas Kuhnen

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I'm also having this problem importing an SVG from Illustrator... Any luck on getting it to scale correctly the first time? Both programs have units set to Inches, but it still comes in 72x too large!

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cekuhnen
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just forget SVG an take AI or PDF ...

Claas Kuhnen

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prainsberry
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With illustrator svg output the units are always in "points" which translates to 72/in.

When importing I just always set the scale to 1/72 and you are good to go.



Regards,
Patrick Rainsberry


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HughesTooling
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@prainsberry wrote:
With illustrator svg output the units are always in "points" which translates to 72/in.

When importing I just always set the scale to 1/72 and you are good to go.



Regards,
Patrick Rainsberry

 

Unless you're working in mm, then it's 25.4/72. If you have an SVG from some other programs they can be in pixels, 1/90. See this thread.

 

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