Copying an object/not moving it.

Copying an object/not moving it.

Draknkep
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Copying an object/not moving it.

Draknkep
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Ok... this is driving my nuts.. In Acad 2016, You can copy and object, to another point leaving the original object in place. In trying to do the same thing in Fusion 360, I see the copy/move command, but it seems to do just that, it moves the original object. I am was trying to copy an object I had made that I would later extrude, and I wanted to put the same object on a face, 90° to the original, so I could extrude it also. As I could not figure out how to do this, I just 'drew' it again, then extruded both. The design I made is a  mount for a JR/Spektrum remote receiver.

 

And... I learned a lot of Autocad 2016 with a good book I found and would like to find a book for this program, I found one at Barnes and Nobel online  but at $48.87, I am somewhat loathe to buy it if it is not a good book. The book I found is 'Autodesk Fusion 360 Introduction to Parametric Modeling:' Is it a good book? It seems to be about the only one I can find.

 

 Help please..

 

SteveT.

 

 

 

 

Remote receiver mount.JPG

 

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Message 21 of 46

Draknkep
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Is not the mirror command only capable of doing 180° (I.E. from one end of and object to the other? I wouldn't think that you could do a mirror at 90°, or can you?

 

SteveT.

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Draknkep
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Unfortunately, that is not what I am trying too do, and I mean no disrespect, but how does it apply to what I am trying to do?

 

I'll try to explain this again (and maybe I'm using the wrong terminology, but please bare with me as I am as I said, very new to Fusion 360)

 

First, I 'drew' the base which is square and then extruded it to .0625" thick.

 

I then 'drew' a rectangle on that base and extruded it to .300" thick.

 

I then turned it (and boy does a good used 3DConnexion SpaceMouse Pro that I picked up on Evil bay make that much easier) and made a sketch on one end of the upper extrusion of what would be an opening all the way through the it. I then wanted to copy that sketch/drawing to the side of the upper extrusion, but could not figure out how to do it, so I had to draw it and then extrude the openings.

 

SteveT.

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etfrench
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You can mirror at any angle. In a sketch, create the mirror line at any angle (except 3d).  Bodies and Components can be mirrored about any plane.

ETFrench

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etfrench
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My last screencast shows exactly how to copy and rotate a sketch through 90 degrees or any other arbitrary angle.  Perhaps if you shared your file, I could make screencast showing how to do it.

 

Putting everything into components makes it much easier to perform most operations.  You may want to review Rule #1.

 

 

ETFrench

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Draknkep
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How the heck do you get that lower part of the screen that shows the commands etc.???

 

SteveT.

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Draknkep
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Sure... how do I share the file??

 

SteveT.

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Message 27 of 46

etfrench
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The lower part of the screencast is built into the screencast program.

 

On the File toolbar menu, select Export, and choose 'Archive Files (*.fd3)'.  Attach the output to your forum post.

ETFrench

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Message 28 of 46

laughingcreek
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here is a link to Screen cast software

 

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/search-result/caas/simplecontent/content/download-autodesk-screencast...

 

and to attach your model, goto the file menu and do what is in the pic, and use the attach  function at the bottom of your post-

export.png

 

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Draknkep
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Ok.. please don't laugh...

 

SteveT.

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Message 30 of 46

Draknkep
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Thank you...I see things and then wonder, how are they doing that??

 

SteveT.

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Message 31 of 46

Draknkep
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As I said guys, please bare with me, I am 66 years old, and learning new things doesn't always come easy any more..

 

SteveT.

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laughingcreek
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does the design you uploaded represent what you want to end up with?  You asked about copying something, but happy to demonstrate more efficient ways of creating this shape if you would like?

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Draknkep
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It does, other than I added some more filets.Though I actually have the part done,  as noted, anything to help me is appreciated, as it will make it easier next time.

 

SteveT.

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Message 34 of 46

tommy
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Hey guys, 

 

Apologies for hijacking this post, but I believe I have a very similar problem which is driving me nuts.

 

I assume this is because the original part wasn't made in Fusion and therefore the cardinal Rules #1 and #2 have probably been broken, nevertheless if you ask me this is also a significant flaw with the copy/ move capabilities of the Fusion 360 application.

 

I am trying to add an extra snap clip onto a plastic part. The clip is made of 11 faces, which when selected can be moved around the rotation axis I need without any problem. However, I CANNOT seem to find any way to Copy these faces, keep the original snap clip unmoved and then paste a new copy 90deg further around. The tick box to create a copy does not appear no matter what I try and do. There is no 'Paste New' option.

 

I have also tried to create a plane across the centre point of the component and mirror the faces of an opposite clip however that destroys the geometry and doesn't work either.

 

I have attached a screen shot of the failed copy, paste rotation. And also a screenshot of the failed mirror.

 

Help please! How can I create a new clip?

 

 

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Message 35 of 46

tommy
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Before anyone suggests it I have just tried the Circular Pattern command using a -90deg angle to try to do the same as a copy and that is also leading to the same geometry failures as the mirror through the centre plane.

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Message 36 of 46

tommy
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Ok, so finally managed to achieve it in the patch environment using a face offset and then rotate.

 

**** this sh1t be complicated.... : )

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davebYYPCU
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We will need the file, sorry those pictures don't tell the story.

You say the model is not native Fusion, so don't fuss yet with Rule 1, 

 

Are you using history timeline, or not?

 

Is the tab a separate body, feature, component, or not?

 

 

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Message 38 of 46

tommy
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Hey Dave,

 

Thanks for your reply...

 

So when I thought I had done it in the patch workspace I actually haven't. The surface faces of the tab are now in the right place, but they aren't intersecting the main body.

 

I have attached the file. 

 

Nope, not using the history timeline as far as I am aware. "Capture Design History" is not on if that is what you mean. Forgive the ignorance. 

 

The snap clip/ tab is not a separate body or component no. Not quite sure what you mean by feature... Again, newbie t Fusion so apologies!

 

Cheers

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Message 39 of 46

davebYYPCU
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Ooooh, not seen a model without sketches in a long time.

 

With a bit of thinking, I have managed to complete or repair the model, so that now there is 4 solid tabs, that appears to be right,

hope you don't mind, will get you to check that.

 

You haven't / didn't do anything wrong here, it is a method of modelling I don't normally use, I am a timeline modeller, 

Not sure, but when you mirrored the top left tab, I think it would have been fine if you selected the tab floor level surface at the same time,

so 12 faces should have worked, but don't quote me.

 

Once I worked out, what is here, what does he want, and how to do it from here

 

The things I did, (in your style of modelling you may know)

 

Created a box, to cut the wall of the internal ring, down to the "floor" of the tab, so the tab has clearance, (you had the surface body the right shape)

used Combine cut, took that box and cut it's shape out of body 1.

Hid body 1, and patched the bottom hole in the 4th tab, then stitched it to be solid,

used Combine Join the tab to the body 1.

 

Hope that makes some sense, file attached, 

 

 

Message 40 of 46

tommy
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Hey Dave,

 

Thanks very much indeed for this. Apologies for the late reply, just back from holiday. Gonna have a crack at the methodology you have suggested now. I have the corresponding part of the case to modify and add a 4th clip to also so fingers crossed I can follow your method.

 

Cheers!

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