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Point Clouds in Civil 3D

Point Clouds in Civil 3D

With the industry pushing heavy into new LIDAR and Photogrammetric data collection, point clouds are everywhere. Though Autodesk has some pretty handy tools for visualizing and manipulating Point Clouds, I feel that Civil 3D falls short of keeping up. I imagine that this will be something coming out in the near future but of course I wish it was here now.

 

What I would like to see:

 

1. Point Cloud Analysis in Section and Profile Views! Allow a slice with adjustable depth to be applied to Sample Lines/Alignments. and allow sample lines/alignments to "sample/project"Point Clouds and project to profile views and section views.

 

2. Corridor Interference Detection with Point Clouds. Probably would be a slightly more difficult step but it would be useful to be able to analyze corridors and very they clear certain obstacles, project parameters, etc.

 

I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out how make a pretty picture out of point clouds and have come to the realization that its not technically necessary. But it would be ULTRA useful to be able to at least be able to "efficiently" visualize them against existing design features in the software. (Without having to by another 10K in software)

 

- Joe

 

 

10 Comments
Anonymous
Not applicable

Wanted to bump this one up in the priority, as it still doesn't seem to be possible. 

AutoCivilAkita01
Collaborator

(Machine translation from Japanese)


あなたのアイデアを実行するために、次のような提案をします。
I thought of the following ways to implement your ideas.
測線に近い点(例えば測線から1cm片側または両側の範囲で)点群を抽出し、断面図に投影する。
A point group that is close to the survey line (for example, within a range of one centimeter or both sides of the survey line) is extracted and projected onto the cross-sectional view.
そして投影された点群には、点群がもともと持っている色をつける
Then, the projected point cloud is given the color that the point cloud originally has.
指定した領域内の点群を抽出することは容易だと思われます。
It seems easy to extract the point cloud in the specified area.
Civil3Dでは断面図に指定した点オブジェクトまたはCOGOポイントを投影することができるので、PCへの負荷が大きいことを考えなければ実行可能だと思います。
Civil3D can project the point object or COGO point specified in the section view, so it can be executed if you do not think that the load on the PC is heavy.

tomislav_vargek
Enthusiast

..something like 3dsurvey...

nicolasmenu
Advocate

Visualizing point clouds section in sections or profile views is a MUST HAVE today... (leica cyclone does it... very usefull to compare existing vs project).

Point clouds integration in autocad is basic, in civil it is almost inexistent.

Point clouds should be the number one axis of development, along with bim and revit collaboration.

Thanks 🙂

 

peterfarkas
Enthusiast

I dont know what package you have, but a Recap > Infraworks > Civil 3D workflow works very well for me. Infraworks creates very nice surfaces from point clouds. The breakline extraction feature is also very nice. I have been able to use the automatic extraction with success, but manual is quick as well.

ehelps5LU7A
Explorer

Definitely a need, especially in the realm of pipelines and projecting to profiles and cross sections.  Hope to see this workflow addressed soon.

ceethreedee.com
Collaborator

its now 2024 and recap still has no way of filtering classification in LAS, even though they had it before the change to recap!!!!

Cadguru42
Advisor

Doesn't look like C3D 2025 has anything, either. It's now been almost 7 years since this was requested with no progress by Autodesk.

ramesh_sridharan
Autodesk

@Cadguru42 @ceethreedee.com @Anonymous @ehelps5LU7A @peterfarkasew, We have added quite a features to ReCap to handle large point cloud data effectively and extract breaklines and surface in a collaborated way since 2023/2024 versions. Here are a few features that can be valuable:

 

  • Automatic ground classification
  • manual classification cleanup and detailed classification tool
  • Intelligent decimation to reduce the number of points without compromising the quality of the surface
  • Publish to ACC to visualize and share large point cloud data with your team and stakeholders anytime anywhere
  • Automated brealine extraction from point cloud data directly from browser to let you extract features like curbs, medians, guard rails, ada ramps, driveways, and any free form extraction.
  • Point feature extraction with necessary attributes to extract assets for design
  • export extracted features to LandXML or DXF format to easy incorporation in Civil3D

Please check out this Youtube channel or autodesk learning page for more details

Cadguru42
Advisor

@ramesh_sridharan Those are nice additions to ReCap, but aren't what the Idea is asking for. This Idea is to enhance C3D's point cloud abilities, which is almost none.

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