Still doesn't work any better than the old app

Still doesn't work any better than the old app

miket
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Still doesn't work any better than the old app

miket
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Enthusiast

Updated to the new Autodesk Access app hoping it would be a step in the right direction to only show updates for products that are out of date and installed on any particular machine.  I was in for a huge disappointment when I see that it is showing all updates for my programs even after I'd updated them.  It doesn't seem to know what is updated and what is not.   Just shows all updates available. 

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Message 2 of 21

pendean
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Message 3 of 21

jeffNMWSR
Contributor
Contributor

Why push so hard to release an unfinished product? As OP said, the available updates listed (only 2 listed on the machine I'm trying to update right now) are incomplete and not correct. In this case it's listing the Revit 2023.0.2 Hotfix when I recently installed the 2023.1.1 update.

 

A lot more testing should have been done before release. At least with ADA we know what to expect.

 

Another fun fact: There's no uninstaller, so at least right now we can't go back to ADA.

Message 4 of 21

DarrenP
Consultant
Consultant

From what I gather from Autodesk that had to replace ADA asap due to security issues

Even if you went back to ADA autodesk has since stopped the app from functioning

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Bojan-Cabradi
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Must have been some serious security issues to roll out an app that:
- does nothing but list available updates,
- has all the problems that desktop app had (list installed updates),
- does not contain proxy settings or any kind of settings,

- uninstalls Desktop App which worked poorly in the last year, but worked,

- is unable to uninstall.

Message 6 of 21

pendean
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@Bojan-Cabradi wrote:

Must have been some serious security issues to roll out an app that...


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Message 7 of 21

danny.polkinhorn
Autodesk Support
Autodesk Support

Hi all, thanks for the feedback.  We’re finding some data issues that are causing inconsistent display of updates.  Nothing wrong with Access itself, just some backend data cleanup needed.  I understand and appreciate that the distinction doesn’t matter to you though.  But, you can help us!

 

If you can run the log collection tool, and post a new thread with your expected and actual behavior, that would really help us track down these issues. We are aware of some Revit issues and are working with them to correct the data, but please post anyway.

 

Thank you for trying it out and helping us resolve some of these data issues.



Danny Polkinhorn
Sr. Product Manager
Message 8 of 21

c_hanschen
Advocate
Advocate

Same here!

 

I installed the new app because of error messages in the old app, but now in the new app:

- only 1 update is listed, the Revit 2023.0.2 hotfix, but I have newer version installed

- all the other updates are missing! I know I am missing some updates, by example 'Issues Addin v5.0.8 for Revit 20xx'

 

Please update the update-app!

 

Chris Hanschen

LKSVDD architecten 

The Netherlands

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Message 9 of 21

hencoop
Advisor
Advisor

"Trying it out"!?

Did you folks NOT try it out before you foisted it upon us?

All it does for me is say all my apps are up to date and "We'll be adding ... over time"  (apparently, adding everything since it has NOTHING now!)

 

Thanks for literally "Nothing".

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Message 10 of 21

danny.polkinhorn
Autodesk Support
Autodesk Support

- all the other updates are missing! I know I am missing some updates, by example 'Issues Addin v5.0.8 for Revit 20xx'


You should only see the Issues Addin if you already have an earlier version of the addin installed, and there is an update available.  We're not showing Extensions, Plugins, Content, etc just yet because we're focused on product updates currently, and these aren't updates.  See my previous message for how to report a specific issue.



Danny Polkinhorn
Sr. Product Manager
Message 11 of 21

danny.polkinhorn
Autodesk Support
Autodesk Support

@hencoop wrote:

"Trying it out"!?

Did you folks NOT try it out before you foisted it upon us?

All it does for me is say all my apps are up to date and "We'll be adding ... over time"  (apparently, adding everything since it has NOTHING now!)

 

Thanks for literally "Nothing".


Of course we tried it out!  If you already have it though, you are definitely in the minority.  Maybe "thank you for being an early adopter" would have been more appropriate.

 

Are all your Autodesk applications up to date?  If so, would you expect to see something else other than "Your applications are up to date"?



Danny Polkinhorn
Sr. Product Manager
Message 12 of 21

c_hanschen
Advocate
Advocate

@danny.polkinhorn , that would be nice!

 

But I had Issues 5.0.0 installed, ADA showed 5.0.8, AC does not!

(now manualy installed)

 

AC still showing just 1 update, there have to be more.

(had long list in ADA)

 

I would invite you to look at my computer, Microsoft Teams by example.

sen me mail to c.hanschen_lksvdd.nl   replace the _ by an @ 🙂

 

Chris

 

Message 13 of 21

David_DeMaria
Enthusiast
Enthusiast

Hi Danny,

 

Found this thread and have run the AutoDesk verification tool as suggested. My issue is a persistent update suggestion for AutoCAD 2023.1.3.

I've gone through anbd thorough removed any reference to the 2023 version since updating to 2024 more than a week ago. Can you see anything that might be promting this. Maybe your suggestions and insights can help others in a similar situation to my own.

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Message 14 of 21

spencernamcor_us
Enthusiast
Enthusiast

Exact same problem!

Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
Inventor 2024
AutoCad 2024
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Message 15 of 21

David_DeMaria
Enthusiast
Enthusiast

I just tried uninstalling and reinstalling AutoDesk Access. But the erroneous update is still coming up same as before. There must be a registry entry thats triggering it perhaps? I previously saw a AutoDesk knowledgbase article for Desktop Manager that suggested deleting the contents of one or two folders (SDS???) to eliminate the problem. This folder no longer exists on my machine so I can only sumise that AutoDesk Access doesnt use the same sort of data.

Meh, I give up Autodesk. Aint nobody got time for that!

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pendean
Community Legend
Community Legend

@David_DeMaria wrote:

Meh, I give up Autodesk. Aint nobody got time for that!


Most of us seasoned users have for some time now even back with ADA: welcome to the group!

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Message 17 of 21

DaveProsser5110
Observer
Observer

Access is showing me an update for Architecture 2023 while I am running 2024.

Seems a step back from the App that it replaced

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Message 18 of 21

forsythen
Explorer
Explorer

Had to check the post date on this before responding. As desktop app is no longer supported, access is the only way to manage updates other than manually tracking and installing each update for each software. All current users are forced to use access. We're not 'early adopters' by choice. 

 

Is there a different way to manage software updates other than manage.autodesk? If so, that would be very helpful information.

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Message 19 of 21

pendean
Community Legend
Community Legend

@forsythen wrote:

...Is there a different way to manage software updates other than manage.autodesk? ...


Nope.

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Message 20 of 21

Simon_Weel
Advisor
Advisor

Is there a different way to manage software updates other than manage.autodesk? If so, that would be very helpful information.

Don't know if 'better' is the word, but I use the Windows domain Shutdown script to install updates for several pieces of software. No user-action required.

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