Create a new symbol and connect that to the spec.

Create a new symbol and connect that to the spec.

frankverkaart
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Create a new symbol and connect that to the spec.

frankverkaart
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Hi,

I intent to create a new type of valve. ( Dairy design). Creating the symbol is not the issue. But how can i connect this to the spec/ catalog item? there I can't find a key to match the symbol to a sanitairy valve. 

 

what do i need to do on this?

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h_eger
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@frankverkaart ,

 

do you mean this setting or something else?
Please provide a little more information so we can answer your questions more easily!

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Michiel.Valcke
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The list with possible valve types in P3D is hard coded, you cannot make your own valve type in 3D. You have to choose one (or more) of the valve classes that come out-of-the-box

So you can make your own P&ID valve class and symbol, but the mapping to the spec (P3D) is based on one of the ootb classes.
Choose your P3D class in the object mapping tab, by putting the valve class in override mode

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Once you have done that you can individually map properties

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If you want to have both P&ID and P3D in the same project and you want to map them (so you can use LineList) you can do that in the P&ID Object Mapping node

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Again the list of possible valve classes to map to is limited to the ootb valve classes.

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frankverkaart
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I want to add this family of valve's they have multiple ports. I want to add them to the spec in a way that details are stored ( make, type description ordering number etc) So when I prepare a P&ID a TAG list made at the same time. (and updated during changes)
These valve's have some dedicated function f.i. CIP route selection : 2 ports and a drain, Manifold valve.'s: 4 ports, and a drain . Divertor valve's upto 6 ports and a drain etc. etc.

So I made some symbols in P&ID, so tagging works. but mechanical/purchase data I have to add in the spec. So How do I do that is the question.

 

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Michiel.Valcke
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In your spec editor, use the property editor to add extra properties. You can do it in the catalog or in the spec depending on where you want to keep and manage that information.

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In your plant 3d project you will have to manually add the same property to the respective P&ID/P3D class - or the overarching class (for example if possible define the property at the 'hand valves' node instead of at the 'Ball Valve' node)

If the property has the same name in the spec as in the project, the mapping should happen automatically after restarting the project. If it is an existing project or you use different names for the properties you might need to manually configure the property mapping in the Project setup - Pipe Spec Object mapping (see screenshot in earlier post). Once that is setup, custom properties from the spec will be filled in in your symbols.

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@frankverkaart 

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frankverkaart
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No not yet.

 

The valve I intent to attach is a 

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To my opinion I can not adress that type in in the P&ID object mapping

So I'm sorting out how I can do.

 

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@Michiel.Valcke @h_eger 

Hello, do you have any further ideas that might help @frankverkaart solve this?

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@frankverkaart 

@CGBenner 

 

I don't know what else I could add to @Michiel.Valcke post. Yes, there are some restrictions that we need to combine in the case of multi-way valves so that P&ID and Plant 3D can work.
But all the requirements that lead to a reasonable work result have already been written by @Michiel.Valcke.

 

Of course, such a task requires a certain level of expert knowledge, and there are many training centers that impart this knowledge.
One thing is also clear: you can't learn Plant 3D on your own.

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Michiel.Valcke
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@frankverkaart 

You determine the type by combining the valve body type and valve alignment, which you can fill in in the catalog.

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The possible Alignments are 3-Way, 4-Way, Angle, Inline

The possible body types are Ball, Butterfly, Check, ****, Corner, Diaphragm, Float, Gate, Globe, InclinedSeat, MultiPort, Needle, Plug, Tank

EDIT: the **** is  C o c k -- stupid automatic swear word detection system xD

I believe this list to be complete but cannot say for sure. Input from people who know differently would be much appreciated.

 

So I assume you want to make it MultiPort (body type) and 4-Way (Alignment)

After looking at this in more detail I'm not sure if the list in the P&ID object mapping is complete or in any other way editable (which could give way to experiment with non existing combinations) I know the Autodesk DIN catalogs contain MultiPort-3-Way valves, but I don't find them in the above list, while I would expect them to be present. I did some quick tests (adding them to a spec in the project) but it didn't change anything in the actual list of possible mappings.