XREF NOT SHOWING UP IN VIEWPORT

XREF NOT SHOWING UP IN VIEWPORT

apanbasu
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XREF NOT SHOWING UP IN VIEWPORT

apanbasu
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I am using 2023 version of AutoCad.

I have xref several schedules and one of then is not showing up in the view port. The attached drawing will have Electric Heater schedule  at the bottom left hand corner. I have a viewport on the top right hand corner of the paper space and one can see that schedule is not visible. All xrefs are in M-ANNO-NOTE Layer. 

Can anybody solve my problem?

I have attached the drawing.

Thanks.

 

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paullimapa
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That schedule unlike any of the others is an xref:

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Opening that xref file, the schedule objects are all placed onto layer: M-ANN0-NOTE

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So you have to make sure that inside the Layout1 Vport that layer is not VP Layer Frozen:

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After VP layer Thawed then that schedule shows up:

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apanbasu
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When I do one vport all schedules are are showing except the heater schedule. if the VP layer is frozen then how the other schedules are showing up?

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apanbasu
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IF the VP layer is frozen then how all other schedules are showing except the heater schedule? VP layer is not frozen.

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paullimapa
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each vport has it's own vp frozen layer controls...that's one of the benefits of using vports which is to control what appears in them vs what do not. Even the paperspace (layout) itself is considered a vport. So while in Paper Space you can see there's still a VP Frozen column in the Layer Properties window.


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paullimapa
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well, if those schedules are xrefs, then the layer names are all different because they're prefixed by the xref dwg name:

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Also be careful on the layer you place those xrefs.

You have most of those xrefs placed onto layer: M-ANNO-NOTE

But that one 25-004 ELECTRIC HEATER SCHEDULE is placed on layer: E-ANNO-NOTE

So you can also end up VP Layer Freezing those Layers and the entire xref would also no longer be seen in that Vport.

So you may want to consider placing all xrefs onto Layer 0 which typically is not frozen.


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Ed__Jobe
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@paullimapa wrote:

 

So you may want to consider placing all xrefs onto Layer 0 which typically is not frozen.


I put all xrefs on layer XREF, which gives me more flexibility since layers 0 and DEFPOINTS are reserved for special AutoCAD usage.

Ed


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apanbasu
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Reply to all:

I am not sure what you are all suggesting. The Heater Schedule supposed to be 1/8th scale. I moved the schedule next the Packaged Heat pump schedule and enlarged the VPORT and it is showing up. See attached.

Regarding Mr. Li's comment about the heater schedule being on Layer E-Anno-Note - I changed the layer to E-Anno-Note to see if that will help. 

If any layer is frozen and that is why it is not showing up in other VPORT then why it showed up in the 1/8th scale VPORT? 

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Ed__Jobe
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If you double click in the viewport that you want the table to show, then open the layer manager, find layer xref:25-004 Electric Heater Schedule|M-Anno_Note and it has VPFreeze enabled. Uncheck it. This happened because the layer inside the xref has NewVPVreeze enabled. So when you created a new vp, the layer was automatically frozen. 

 

None of this would have happened if you simply put the table xrefs in paperspace where they should be. Model space is for modeling real world objects. Annotations should be in paper space. (Although some may disagree with me. 😁)

Ed


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Don't get Layer Freeze confused with VP Freeze.

These are two different columns to control Layer visibility.

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In Model tab, only the Layer Freeze column shows up.

But in Layout (whether outside of a Vport or inside a Vport) there's both a Freeze column as well as a VP Freeze column.

Now if you don't plan on using the Vport Freeze feature, then just make sure all Vports in the current layout has all Layers VP Freeze set as VP Thawed. Here's single line of lisp code to do this:

(command "_.Vplayer" "_Thaw" "*" "" "")

This is how it looks like when it executes:

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Now all Vports in the current layout will have Layer VP Freeze thawed.


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paullimapa
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Yes, that other infamous Layer Vport control New Vp Freeze

@apanbasu To make sure you see all these Column headings in the Layer Properties window, right mouse click over any of the column headings and select to toggle them on/off:

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You can also reposition any of the Layer Properties window Columns by selecting the column heading with left mouse and then drag it to a new location and then release the left mouse button

 


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imadHabash
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Hi,

Click on below image to see the solution.

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manieshkumar.suresh
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Hi @apanbasu 

 

Good day !

 

Is there any circular xref.

Its possible that the Xrefs or overlays are not attached in the new drawing and  Xref or overlay is on a frozen or hidden layer, or may only be frozen or hidden in the viewport. 




Maniesh Kumar Suresh

Escalation Lead


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apanbasu
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Thank you all. Again, Live and Learn.

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