How to (successfully) convert pcp file to ctb file?

How to (successfully) convert pcp file to ctb file?

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How to (successfully) convert pcp file to ctb file?

Prvoime
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Hello to everyone.
When exporting from Revit to AutoCAD I also get a pcp file.
I use "Add-A-Plot Style Table Wizard" to convert it to ctb file, but it doesn't convert really accurately.

 

First, the colors, they don't convert at all. As you can see in my little example, from Revit everything except the logo prints black. From AutoCAD everything prints in color.
OK, I can solve this manually, but is there some better way? It's not an issue with drawing that are mostly black, but could get tedious with drawings that use a lot of colors and shading, to hunt down all those colors of layers.

 

Second, the thickness. I deliberately set ridiculously thick lines for walls in Revit to illustrate the issue. Thickness don't translate in AutoCAD. At all.
It's clearly visible in this example, but it's worse when you don't use ridiculous values, then everything just ends up being the same thickness.

 

Any way to solve these issues?

 

Here are prints, first Revit, second AutoCAD.

 

RevitPrint.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ACADPrint.jpg

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Message 21 of 33

Prvoime
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@RobDraw wrote:

I'm still not clear about what you want 8r even what you have. Can't you try explaining it again? Sorry for the confusion. 


I have a set of drawings in Revit, when printed all in black/white, except elevations which have some shading (but it's "black/white" shading, not red and green).
I want to export all those drawings, with title blocks (so sheets) to DWG so I can send it to associates who use AutoCAD.
It has to be a "normal" DWG file, so each layer on a different color so they can easily use it if they need to change something.
And I have to send them a CTB file (that's what they use) with which they'll be able to print the drawings and have them look the same way as if they're printed from Revit. Black/white plans, black/white and some shading in elevations, and with correct line weights.

I export it to DWG which looks fine, and Revit gives me a "free" PCP file. But the automatic procedure of converting PCP to CTB with the "Wizard" results in plot style which when printed is in color instead black/white, and completely wrong line weights.

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ChicagoLooper
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@Prvoime wrote

<<Hello to everyone.
When exporting from Revit to AutoCAD ….>>


What is the purpose of exporting from Revit to AutoCAD? Why can’t you print from Revit? 


Can you upload a ‘wide’ screenshot of your Layer Properties Manager so all the columns are visible and a screenshot of your Plot window? The same plot window used to make your first image (the image with the thick black rectangle). 

 

 

Chicagolooper

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RobDraw
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Send PDFs with the .dwgs for printing purposes. Then they don't need the .ctb.

 

Having your export files would be beneficial for solving the problem. 


Rob

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RSomppi
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Hopefully, you have already dug into your export settings and found the cause of your problem. If not, have a look at this setting:

 

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Prvoime
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@RobDraw wrote:

Send PDFs with the .dwgs for printing purposes. Then they don't need the .ctb.

 

Having your export files would be beneficial for solving the problem. 


Unfortunately I have to send DWGs, they do need to work on them in AutoCAD. Also, you wouldn't believe how often people barely know the tools they work with. I often have to guide them on what to do because someone once set it up for them, and that's it.

That's why I wanted a faster way of creating CTB files, manually certainly works, but I can't just create it once and forget about it, since some projects may have some categories in Revit and others not.

 

Attached are DWG file exported from Revit, PCP file generated by Revit, and CTB file generated by the wizard.

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RobDraw
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My suggestion was to send both the PDFs and the .dwgs. That was standard submissions for me for many years. In fact, we didn't send or CAD ready for print. We didn't want to make it easy for recipients to make any changes and print our drawings with those unauthorized changes.


Rob

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abouzane
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Hi all!

 

Been a long time AutoCAD and Revit user.  never needed to make a CTB after I've exported RVT to CAD.  but I decided to try on my spare time.

 

With pride, please find the attached CTB file to be used as a template for CAD files that have been generated from RVT exports.  Note that I've had to ZIP it because of Autodesk Forum Rules.

 

This is Based on the MQN Architects company standard and work, generally as i would expect for B&W CAD plots.

 

By no means to I expect this to be perfect for everyone, however the objective is that the majority of lines that come out of RVT will plot nicely in AutoCAD when using this CTB.  Rather how MQN architects expects it too and I would anticipate that this could be a good starting point for a number of users in this community.

 

Note the following:

1.  White Masking regions in Revit plot as BLACK, so they need to be fixed in AutoCAD after the fact.

2. Element Overrides (EOD), are not reflected in the CAD file, so keep that in mind.  IE half tone or Transparency

Extensionally Yours,

 

CadMasterAdam

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RobDraw
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@abouzane wrote:

This is Based on the MQN Architects company standard


Not all company standards are equal.

 


@abouzane wrote:

By no means to I expect this to be perfect for everyone, however the objective is that the majority of lines that come out of RVT will plot nicely in AutoCAD when using this CTB.


Not sure you can make a statement like that without verification. We'll have to wait for the OP on that one.


Rob

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Vuxvix
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Hi!
I am using AutoCad and Revit 2024. Currently AutoCad 2024 no longer supports PCP files. Is there any other way than installing an older version of Autocad?

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pendean
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@Vuxvix wrote:

Hi!
I am using AutoCad and Revit 2024. Currently AutoCad 2024 no longer supports PCP files. Is there any other way than installing an older version of Autocad?


This is not the REVIT forum sadly, but AutoCAD users can use this tip https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/how-to-successfully-convert-pcp-file-to-ctb-file/td-p/1....

 

For REVIT users, explore this tip from that forum https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/pcp-revit-and-autocad/td-p/11633418 

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Vuxvix
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Hi!
I have read both posts, I don't see any mention of Autcad 2014 no longer supporting pcp and pc3. Did I miss anything!? Thanks
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cadffm
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You need a program with this feature, so I would say no.

For pen settings / plotstyletable conversion: Beside autocad, you can use/install DWG TRUEVIEW.

 

 

Sebastian

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Vuxvix
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Thanks for the useful information. i will try it.

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