wipe out command

aobrienW7BBM · ‎02-08-2022

I have selected mask background in the text properties but the mask doesn't work inside the viewport in paper or model space, only shows up on model tab. Wipeout gives same result! Wipeout was on the same layer. Checked draw order to bring text and the wipe out above other linework.

cheryl.buck · ‎02-08-2022

Hi @aobrienW7BBM,

Welcome to the AutoCAD Forums Community!

I am sorry to hear you are having this problem. Maybe check the color setting for mask?

If that does not help, can you send a sample drawing showing the issue for us to troubleshoot?

All the best,

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chillegass · ‎02-11-2022

Not sure if this will help. I place all of my wipeout(s) on the defpoints layer. Then you can see the outline of the wipeout and be able to move or change the order of the wipeout.

aobrienW7BBM · ‎02-11-2022

Thank you for your response! I finally found a setting in the viewport that was causing the problem. I had to change the visual style to "2d frame".

dbroad · ‎02-12-2022

The title of the thread is misleading. A background mask on a piece of text is not a wipeout element. The OP was trying to keep text from being overstruck from other elements running through the text.

Putting anything on layer defpoints will keep that element from plotting at all. That is a bad solution to hiding a wipeout frame during plotting, especially if you want to mask anything.

There is only one color to a wipeout, except perhaps for the frame itself. A text mask can have different colors.

The wipeoutframe command can be used to adjust wipeout frames (0-hidden, 1- plottable, 2-frame visible but not plottable).

OP: Glad you found your solution.

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chillegass · ‎02-14-2022

Thank you for clarifying this in a very respectful manner.

I will be adjusting my wipeout frames going forward. This makes sense and is good information.

deltacoolguy · ‎02-15-2022

@chillegass wrote:
Not sure if this will help. I place all of my wipeout(s) on the defpoints layer. Then you can see the outline of the wipeout and be able to move or change the order of the wipeout.

Interesting. I usually create a separate WIPEOUT layer, but I like this idea.

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TomBeauford · ‎02-15-2022

Many issues with using the defpoints layer!

https://www.thesourcecad.com/what-is-defpoints-layer-in-autocad/

https://cadapult-software.com/be-careful-with-the-defpoints-layer/

https://www.cadforum.cz/en/why-you-should-not-use-the-defpoints-layer-to-draw-geometry-tip11469

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rlaycock · ‎06-09-2022

The problem is AutoCAD 2020 & 2021 don't work right. They don't perform per the Sys Var definitions.

WIPEOUTFRAME 2 is what I want. FRAME according to ADESK overrides the WIPEOUTFRAME setting. In drawing where I'm using WIPEOUTFRAME I set both FRAME & WIPEOUTFRAME to 2. Plot and it's all good. SAVE and close.

Next time I need to print a set FRAME is back to 3 and WIPEOUTFRAME is 1.

That's my definition of a Bug. At least someone on this Forum should admit it's broken.

RCL

pendean · ‎06-09-2022

@rlaycock wrote:

The problem is AutoCAD 2020 & 2021 don't work right. They don't perform per the Sys Var definitions.

WIPEOUTFRAME 2 is what I want. FRAME according to ADESK overrides the WIPEOUTFRAME setting. In drawing where I'm using WIPEOUTFRAME I set both FRAME & WIPEOUTFRAME to 2. Plot and it's all good. SAVE and close.

Next time I need to print a set FRAME is back to 3 and WIPEOUTFRAME is 1.

That's my definition of a Bug. At least someone on this Forum should admit it's broken.

We are all end users just like you: if you need Autodesk input or validation then start a support ticket through your subscription portal as explained here https://knowledge.autodesk.com/customer-service/account-management/users-software/support-options#:~....

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Kent1Cooper · ‎06-09-2022

@rlaycock wrote:

.... I set both FRAME & WIPEOUTFRAME to 2. Plot and it's all good. SAVE and close.

Next time I need to print a set FRAME is back to 3 and WIPEOUTFRAME is 1.

....

Might you have something like an acaddoc.lsp file that is [re-]setting those values every time you open a drawing?

Kent Cooper, AIA

rlaycock · ‎06-09-2022

I guarantee you are NOT like me. Don't waste my time.

rlaycock · ‎06-09-2022

Basically you're doing exactly what I'm doing. It works for you but not for me. I greatly appreciate a straight forward answer. God bless you.

Software is so complicated compared to just 10 years ago. I code factories with a 3rd Party OEM ACAD versions. I run two or three version to keep up with all my clients. There's no way a contractor can afford a Std version of all the asinine iterations Autodesk throws at us unless going OEM.

Your response clarifies for me that the answer is most likely one of the many shortcomings of ADESK's insatiable greed in crippling the OEM versions of ACAD so necessary to the development of the coding software that's driving so much of their growth. ADESK is a collection of greedy bastards that will eventually collapse their empire. That's just the humble opinion of an aged Autodesk 10 user in extremis.

Thanks Whomever you are*,

RCL

* Is it not bizarre I cannot see the post I'm replying to? ADESK's concept of user interface is pathetic.

They get worse every year! They're the Microsoft of CAD. Other than MSDN, which remains excellent, Microsoft abuses their base users. I'm definitely a power user for Autocad but I don't get any significant Support from Autodesk. Only other users forward honest answers. My guess is Autodesk's future is limited to my lifetime which won't be much more than 10 or 15 years, God willing.

I'm sure there's MUCH better tech out there. It has to catch on with us 3rd Party overlays who do the REAL manufacturing work before ADESK can be put in the grave. Design is 50%+ BS. Machine Code has to be 100%. AutoCAD can't do CAD/CAM without their 3rd Party partners but they treat us like dirt.

rlaycock · ‎06-09-2022

Now days I'm running three different ACAD OEM 3rd Party overlay CAD/CAM
programs. No LISP is allowed. No APPLOAD. That's ADESK punishing the
engineers who have to CODE machines. Greedy SOBs!

Kent1Cooper · ‎06-10-2022

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[We are all just other Users like you, with minimal oversight by Autodesk employees who are not the ones who can do anything about what you consider shortcomings. The place to register your opinion is the >Product Feedback Page<.]

Kent Cooper, AIA

Kent1Cooper · ‎06-10-2022

@rlaycock wrote:
Now days I'm running three different ACAD OEM 3rd Party overlay CAD/CAM
programs. No LISP is allowed. No APPLOAD. ....

I don't use OEM programs, so I don't know the possibilities, but could they [or one of them] be doing the unwanted resettings? They may not be AutoLisp per se, and they may not be invoked with APPLOAD per se, but I assume that does not mean they can't be doing such things, along with whatever other things they do. Can you start a version of raw AutoCAD without any of those overlays, and see whether the same problem occurs?

Kent Cooper, AIA

rlaycock · ‎06-12-2022

Read my post again. I run multiple OEM versions from 3rd Party code
generating Autodesk "Partners". Autodesk doesn't service us directly.
We drive our factories and pump up Adesk sales but we get shortchanged on
service.
I doubt that makes much of a difference. I always maintained a full license
until 2016. I've used ACAD since v10 DOS and v11 Mac. Full ADESK service had
dropped in response quality quite a bit by the time I was running full
standard 2010. APPLOAD by itself is not worth the $$$ for a full license
without a much higher level of Support.

That's how I see it. Rich