Blocks not inserting in correct place

[Anonymous]

Hi,

I'm pretty new to Autocad. A few weeks only with Autocad LT 2017 and all pretty good so far, just takes a bot of getting used to.  I can find most things from the help or by searching for videos.... Except....blocks that I have created, such as a single toilet cubicle for example, do not insert where I place the mouse pointer & click, but end up 'hundreds of metres away' on the drawing - then I have to go looking for them.  Needless to say this can be quite funny with random toilets spread over quite a large site drawing !  But a bit of a pain.

Can anyone suggest how I can reset these blocks somehow to insert where I want them to go...

Thanks all.

[ВeekeeCZ · Accepted solution]

Go to Block Editor (BEDIT command), select you Toilet block and check where are 0,0 coords. 
0,0 will match your insertion point then.

[rkmcswain · Accepted solution]

Are the blocks external (saved as a DWG file) or are they internal (defined inside of the current drawing)?

I'm guessing the insertion point is off (not 0,0,0) -or- the insertion point *is* 0,0,0, but the geometry is way off in space.

[Anonymous]

Thanks very much for quick reply.  I actually found it as well under Block Editor, Parameters, set Basepoint.  I'll try harder next time!

[Kent1Cooper]

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@Anonymous wrote:

Thanks very much for quick reply.  I actually found it as well under Block Editor, Parameters, set Basepoint.  I'll try harder next time!

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This most likely comes from defining a Block and letting it use the default 0,0,0 that the dialog box offers as the insertion base point, though the parts of it are drawn elsewhere.  In the old days, before the dialog-box-based Block defining operation, you had to give it a base point as one of the steps along the way, and there was no default, so this kind of problem wouldn't occur.  My advice is to just always be consciously aware, when defining a Block, of the fact that it's crucial to specify its insertion base point, and not unwittingly accept what the dialog box offers as a default.

[Kent1Cooper]

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@Kent1Cooper wrote:

This most likely comes from defining a Block and letting it use the default 0,0,0 that the dialog box offers as the insertion base point....  In the old days, before the dialog-box-based Block defining operation, you had to give it a base point as one of the steps along the way, and there was no default, so this kind of problem wouldn't occur.  ....

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[Because this kind of issue comes up periodically, I just went into the Product Feedback site, and put in a suggestion that they eliminate the 0,0,0 default for that in the dialog box, require explicit specification of an insertion base point, and don't allow picking OK until one is specified.  We'll see whether they take my suggestion in some future release....]

[Anonymous]

I had this problem too, and I've tried everything but nothing has worked so far.  When I first created the block the objects were not at 0,0, but in the block editor I moved the objects to 0,0.  I used the basepoint parameter and set it to 0,0, and my ucs icon shows up at 0,0, but when I insert the block into another file the objects are really far away from the insertion point.

[Anonymous]

 I am having this issue too, tried everything in this thread and still having problems.  I am using Carlson Survey 2019. 

[Anonymous]

I figured my issue out on another topic.  INSBASE was way off.

[mike_sumner]

Thanks!