AutoCAD LT for Mac Custom Font Issues | Josefin Sans

[helloWYGL9]

I have continually had this issue (specifically with AutoCAD LT 2022 and Newer) where often my text (Josefin Sans) don't read correctly, specifically the Regular font style, and reads as a 'wire-frame' (it's assigning a default text to the standard). This issue create formatting issues when the thickness is not correct.

Sometimes it works, reads correctly, but after a month or so if I restart my computer or CAD starts slowing and I close it, the issue often comes back and I restart my computer 10-15 times before the issue is resolved (if resolved). Per previous discussion with @maxim_k, he advised I download the font and only upload Regular, Italic, Bold, and Bold Italic into my font book, which I have done.

The issue seems lie within more recent version of AutoCAD LT for Macs as see the snapshots below taken at the same time. 2019 reads CORRECTLY and 2022 & 2023 read as a 'wire-frame' as if the font is not being picked up. NOTE: When I plot/publish, the graphics of the Josefin Sans Regular font are correct...however when setting up the files and sheets, the formatting is the issue when reading thinner than the actual.

Can anybody help me with lasting solution?

2019 AutoCAD LT on Mac Snapshot (This is how it should look)

 

2022 AutoCAD LT on Mac Snapshot (wire-frame...oddly the BOLD version reads correctly on this sheet, not shown)

 

2023 AutoCAD LT on Mac Snapshot (wire-frame...oddly the BOLD version reads correctly on this sheet, not shown)

The topic title has been edited to improve findability by @alina.balkanskaia. 

 

[pendean]

Your screenshots to me look like you have a font substitution taking place, not much else

Can you confirm that in STYLE command? Or are these MTEXT with manual font overrides inside the editor?

[helloWYGL9]

I agree there is a font substitution taking place, but I am not sure why (because it doesn't say it is occuring). Again this is the same MAC computer and I am pulling up the same exact file at the same time between 2019 and 2022. See snapshot below.

I prefer to use 2022 for functionality but it is problematic that it doesn't read the fonts (same font book) correctly. 

2019 (correct)

2022 (wrong)

  

[pendean]

Thank for for the extra screenshots, but neither of them is from inside the MEXT Editor while highlighting the text to show what font is actually in use right there and then. Can you try again?

[helloWYGL9]

Apologies, I am not sure what you meant. The extra screenshots previously were confirming what was showing up in the STYLE command. 

Here is a screenshot of 2022 showing the MTEXT Editor...but it still looks like everything is good (doesn't indicate a substitute but clearly it is subbing in a different font that Josefin Sans Regular). If I am not showing you the correct information, can you please guide me how to get to the prompt that you may be wanting to see. Or how I can assign the correct font from within AutoCAD rather than hoping it is grabbing the correct one from my Font Book in the MAC Applications.

Thanks,

 

[maxim_k · Accepted solution]

Hi @helloWYGL9 ,

From your screenshots in the second post I see that Regular typeface in 2019 and in 2022 versions looks different in Text Style window. Most definitely different Josefin Sans font versions are used in 2019 and 2022 versions.

Do you have Josefin Sans font only in one place on your Mac?

It should be placed only in ~/Library/Fonts folder.

Do you have another instance of Josefin Sans font inside 

"/Applications/Autodesk/AutoCAD 2019/AutoCAD 2019.app/Contents/Resources/Fonts/ttf" folder?

If yes, then AutoCAD 2019 uses Josefin Sans font from that folder inside AutoCAD application folder, but AutoCAD 2022 uses another version of Josefin Sans font from ~/Library/Fonts folder.

[pendean]

As @maxim_k notes his reply, we need to find out why these look different (the same exact font file being used is never supposed to do that). You have separate fonts in play for some reason, and both are on your Mac.

Find out which program is using the system font-book location and which is not starting here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jvLTO0LBOY

TIA

[helloWYGL9]

@maxim_k and @pendean 

Thank you both! Yes, it does seem that multiple fonts are in play and that is the challenge. I don't intentionally have multiple fonts throughout the computer (not super tech savvy)

Do you have Josefin Sans font only in one place on your Mac? Per my previous discussions with @maxim, I thought I downloaded the latest Josefin Sans (4 fonts only) and had them located in my Font Book on my Mac. Didn't know of any others

It should be placed only in ~/Library/Fonts folder. Josefin Sans shows up in my Font Book (application) however, when I go to this folder, I don't see the fonts.

Do you have another instance of Josefin Sans font inside 

"/Applications/Autodesk/AutoCAD 2019/AutoCAD 2019.app/Contents/Resources/Fonts/ttf" folder? Oddly, when I go here for 2019, I see fonts but not the Josefin Sans.ttfs

I am curious to find out where the 2019 was pulling the fonts from (since it was the correct look) vs. where 2022 & 2023 are pulling them from. Again oddly, when I plot...everything looks correct.

I will try to locate the Josefin Sans and ONLY put them in the Library/Fonts folder (although they weren't previously there)

[helloWYGL9 · Accepted solution]

All, I made sure that the fonts were located in ~/Library/Fonts folder (which they were not previously although showing up in Font Book) and that seemed to fix the issue on 2022. 

It has worked and then stopped on me in the past but for now this seems to be the solution. I will report back if something changes but as always, thank you for the help and support @maxim_k  & @pendean 

[alina.balkanskaia]

@helloWYGL9 Hello, nice to see you in Autodesk Community!

Thank you for marking the solution because it helps other users to see the valuable information.

[helloWYGL9]

@maxim_k & @pendean 

My fonts were working great in AutoCAD 2022 since my last post, however I noticed CAD lagging so closed down and when I reopened, it went back to the previous challenge of not finding the Josefin Sans - Regular font (appears like a missing wireframe font). I didn't change anything and the fonts are still located in the ~Library/Font Folder.

Not sure why AutoCAD on a Mac has this challenge grabbing that correct font but don't know what else to try. 

This is the only place I have saved these 4 fonts (Josefin Sans - Regular, Bold, BoldItalic, and Italic). With that said, when I do etransmit or package CAD files, I do believe a font file is created and saved in those subsequent folders. I would hate to think those are the challenges created because frankly there are many of those due to the type of work I do. Please let me know what you think. I am hoping to find a permit resolution to this font issue. FYI, 2019 AutoCAD LT is still working correctly, it's the newer versions that dont' find the font correctly.

[maxim_k]

Hi @helloWYGL9 ,

What do you see at the command prompt (command window) when you open drawing with "missing" Josefin Sans - Regular font?

>>>>>With that said, when I do etransmit or package CAD files, I do believe a font file is created and saved in those subsequent folders.

AutoCAD cannot use fonts that are outside FontBook (Fonts folder), except fonts inside AutoCAD application folder - "/Applications/Autodesk/AutoCAD 2022/AutoCAD 2022.app/Contents/Resources/Fonts/ttf"

[helloWYGL9]

@maxim_k 

The odd thing is that is doesn't show "missing" fond. Nothing shows up in the command prompt when the file is loaded. Also when I go to Mtext Editor it doesn't show anything is missing (it just doesn't read properly when loaded).

I have looked and I currently have the 4 Josefin Sans fonts in the Font Book. When I go to the fonts located at AutoCAD application folder - "/Applications/Autodesk/AutoCAD 2022/AutoCAD 2022.app/Contents/Resources/Fonts/ttf" - Josefin Sans is not located in the folder.

[maxim_k]

@helloWYGL9 

Can you show screenshot of FontBook window which shows 4 Josefin Sans fonts?

Which Folder opens when you right-click on Font name and select "Show in Finder"?

[helloWYGL9]

Yes, here you go.

 

 

[maxim_k]

Looks like you've placed the Josephine Sans fonts in the wrong place.

You need to place them in the "/Users/YOUR_USER_NAME/Library/Fonts" folder, but not in the "/Library/Fonts" folder.

BTW, if you use menu File -> Add fonts in the FontBook app, the fonts should go to the "/Users/YOUR_USER_NAME/Library/Fonts" folder automatically.

[helloWYGL9]

@maxim_k That folder doesn't exist on my system.

I followed your process in the app book.

However, I tried to create a folder called Library which my user name and it wouldn't allow me as it said it already exists (however it is not visible). 

Not sure how to rectify

 

[maxim_k]

The Library folder inside your Home folder is hidden in macOS by default and it exists on all Macs.

So do this:

- remove Josephine Sans fonts from the "/Library/Fonts" folder

- install Josephine Sans fonts from Font Book.app - as I wrote before:  if you use menu File -> Add fonts in the FontBook app, the fonts should go to the "/Users/YOUR_USER_NAME/Library/Fonts" folder by default.

FYI: Looks like you are using an old version of macOS (or I'm wrong?), so to go to the Library folder inside your Home folder, click 'Go' in the Finder menu bar, and hold down the 'Option' (Alt) key. The Library entry now appears in the Finder > Go menu.

[helloWYGL9]

@maxim_k I updated to the latest macOS.

I followed the previous steps (remove from Library/Fonts and added to Font Book through your process). Below is a snapshot of what currently shows in those folders.

With that said, may AutoCAD 2022 is still not reading the Josefin Sans Regular font. It is so odd to me that it will work and then stop and I am not sure why.

This is the wireframe look, not the correct thickness for Josefin Sans Regular.

 

 

 

[maxim_k]

Hi @helloWYGL9 ,

>>>>>I updated to the latest macOS

And your macOS is now ....?

Can you share one of your drawings here?

Please create two drawing packages of the same drawing - one in AutoCAD 2019 and another one in AutoCAD 2022 - and attach it here.