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ANSI/ISA-S5.4

ANSI/ISA-S5.4

How about implementing pretty much the world wide standard for loop creation ANSI/ISA-S5.4

 

A little history

Loop Diagrams are used extensively in the Oil and Gas industry also Pharmaceutical industry and lots of varied industries where process plant over a large physical area exists

 

Its a method of breaking down a design into a small functional blocks

 

The information on a loop can contain electrical /mechanical/pneumatic / and or PLC states ETC its not purely an electrical circuit

 

As an instrument designer before I use a cad system i compile a spreadsheet with all the relevant project information in which is then used to generate the instrument loop

 

From here either I do a manual loop by loop creation by manually editing template drawings

 

Or i use a Lisp routine in ACAD which pulls the information out of a my pre formatted spreadsheet and populates drawing templates

 

if you have a plant of 1000 plus loops then your into some very large labour costs

 

At present the current Acade to spreadsheet utility does no present the page information in an easily useable format for loops

 

The plc to spreadsheet utility is close to what I require but at present I don’t have time to fully investigate its possibilities

 

the circiut builder at present is far to complicated to be of use

 

So for this to be successful a method of mapping a users spreadsheet to pre defined markers in a template drawings needs to be developed

 

why a user spreesdsheet becasue you trying to use ACADE in a enviroment where very strict document formating can be the company standard ACADE

 

must bend to what the customer does not vice versa or it will be a waste of time

 

Here is part of a spreedsheet for a project i worked on their is over 70 colums of information

 

 

loop1.jpg

 

loop2.jpg

9 Comments
WoHo
Alumni
vikas.vaishnav
Autodesk
Status changed to: Under Review

Thanks for sharing your idea, similar request for Loop diagrams has come from different members from inside and outside Idea station. We shall review it and consider it for ACADE feature list. Thanks for you explanation.

 

Keep writing to us, your suggestions are valuable to us.

 

Best Regards,

AutoCAD Electrical Team.

Anonymous
Not applicable

While I don't use them myself, I have an interest in possibly using them in the future.  All of the information necessarry should exist in the model, so generating them should be a matter of reading the data and outputing it to a new drawing using a different, simplified set of symbols.

 

Apparently this is a popular need and long sought after. I am pasting in several links from the general forum where people have asked about them. (Since 2004)

 

Loop Diagram

Loop Diagrams - Few Issues!

Loop Drawings

Loop Sheets: Import Speadsheet data to generic template

ISA Standard Loop Drawings using PLCIO Utility ?

ccad2509
Advisor

Hello drathak

 

already posted this back in august and its under review (which means if they feel like it it will be in ACADE 2025 by current implementation schedules)

 

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-electrical-ideastation/ansi-isa-s5-4/idi-p/5197651

 

Smiley Frustrated Cynical YES Proved wrong Not Yet

Anonymous
Not applicable

My bad.  Didn't see (or remember seeing) that one. I'll go chase it down and give it a thinubs up if I haven't already.  🙂

t_chaws
Alumni
Status changed to: Gathering Support

Hi, 

 

Seems like your idea has already been captured http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-electrical-ideastation/ansi-isa-s5-4/idi-p/5197651
We will be tracking your suggestion via this idea above. 

 

If you have any additional requests, feel free to add a comment here.

We encourage you to post more ideas and dont forget to give kudos to other ideas that you support.

 

Best Regards, 

AutoCAD Electrical Product Team

Anonymous
Not applicable

What is the status of the addition of Logic Diagram creation from schematics in AutoCAD Electrical?

ccad2509
Advisor

nothing its been ignored

Status changed to: Future Consideration
 

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