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I sometimes see tags like this when copying devices with fixed tags using the circuit clipboard...usually they point to me copying something that had a fixed tag. However, un-fixing the tags, retagging, and then re-fixing them usually clears it up. But I'm not convinced that's what you're seeing here.
Can we have some insight into the workflow you're using?
*why is the retag even needed...was the component moved or copied? If so, was that done using the appropriate ACADE commands?
*if you insert a component from the Icon Menu in a different drawing from the same project, do you get this behavior or does it go as expected? Do you see the Edit Component dialog?
I'm wondering if a Reset to Defaults is warranted here, because you mentioned that you don't get the Edit Component dialog when inserting a symbol. Have you done that? rEset to Defaults fixes a lot of weird, inexplicable issues like this.
If this is only happening in the one drawing, try auditing the drawing. (Note, this is vanilla AUDIT, not the electrical version.) Just enter AUDIT at the command line and answer Y when it asks to fix mistakes. After that, immediately purge all blocks, and then immediately rebuild the project database (AEREBUILDDB at the command line).
Personally, I think I would audit first, then Reset to Defaults. If these both fail, I would probably assume the drawing is corrupted somehow and redraw it....provided all other drawings behave normally.
Jim Seefeldt
Electrical Engineering Technician
Can we have some insight into the workflow you're using?
*why is the retag even needed...was the component moved or copied? If so, was that done using the appropriate ACADE commands?
*if you insert a component from the Icon Menu in a different drawing from the same project, do you get this behavior or does it go as expected? Do you see the Edit Component dialog?
I'm wondering if a Reset to Defaults is warranted here, because you mentioned that you don't get the Edit Component dialog when inserting a symbol. Have you done that? rEset to Defaults fixes a lot of weird, inexplicable issues like this.
If this is only happening in the one drawing, try auditing the drawing. (Note, this is vanilla AUDIT, not the electrical version.) Just enter AUDIT at the command line and answer Y when it asks to fix mistakes. After that, immediately purge all blocks, and then immediately rebuild the project database (AEREBUILDDB at the command line).
Personally, I think I would audit first, then Reset to Defaults. If these both fail, I would probably assume the drawing is corrupted somehow and redraw it....provided all other drawings behave normally.
Jim Seefeldt
Electrical Engineering Technician
I sometimes see tags like this when copying devices with fixed tags using the circuit clipboard...usually they point to me copying something that had a fixed tag. However, un-fixing the tags, retagging, and then re-fixing them usually clears it up. But I'm not convinced that's what you're seeing here.
Can we have some insight into the workflow you're using?
*why is the retag even needed...was the component moved or copied? If so, was that done using the appropriate ACADE commands?
*if you insert a component from the Icon Menu in a different drawing from the same project, do you get this behavior or does it go as expected? Do you see the Edit Component dialog?
I'm wondering if a Reset to Defaults is warranted here, because you mentioned that you don't get the Edit Component dialog when inserting a symbol. Have you done that? rEset to Defaults fixes a lot of weird, inexplicable issues like this.
If this is only happening in the one drawing, try auditing the drawing. (Note, this is vanilla AUDIT, not the electrical version.) Just enter AUDIT at the command line and answer Y when it asks to fix mistakes. After that, immediately purge all blocks, and then immediately rebuild the project database (AEREBUILDDB at the command line).
Personally, I think I would audit first, then Reset to Defaults. If these both fail, I would probably assume the drawing is corrupted somehow and redraw it....provided all other drawings behave normally.
Jim Seefeldt
Electrical Engineering Technician
Can we have some insight into the workflow you're using?
*why is the retag even needed...was the component moved or copied? If so, was that done using the appropriate ACADE commands?
*if you insert a component from the Icon Menu in a different drawing from the same project, do you get this behavior or does it go as expected? Do you see the Edit Component dialog?
I'm wondering if a Reset to Defaults is warranted here, because you mentioned that you don't get the Edit Component dialog when inserting a symbol. Have you done that? rEset to Defaults fixes a lot of weird, inexplicable issues like this.
If this is only happening in the one drawing, try auditing the drawing. (Note, this is vanilla AUDIT, not the electrical version.) Just enter AUDIT at the command line and answer Y when it asks to fix mistakes. After that, immediately purge all blocks, and then immediately rebuild the project database (AEREBUILDDB at the command line).
Personally, I think I would audit first, then Reset to Defaults. If these both fail, I would probably assume the drawing is corrupted somehow and redraw it....provided all other drawings behave normally.
Jim Seefeldt
Electrical Engineering Technician
It's rare to actually determine exactly how or why a dwg file became corrupted.
However, one way that a drawing can become corrupt is by copying it, renaming it, and editing it. Over time, the copies accumulate errors that are then copied into the next generation. This eventually leads to sporadic drawing behavior or other instabilities.
'Best Practice' drafting, such as running AUDIT on a drawing, purging it of unused data, etc. don't always seem to prevent this kind of corruption.
I once had to redo a drawing that had been copied and renamed numerous times for over a decade. The original one was from the early 2000's. The more recent copies were giving us problems - failing the AUDIT command, random crashes and instabilities. So the decision was made to redraw the base file. We still had the original but I didn't know - I redrew the whole thing. When we found it, and made comparisons to the newer versions of it that had been copied and renamed over and over, it had zero problems. Everything that didn't work in the copies, worked in the original. Despite being way over 10 years old, that drawing was fine.
Because of that, I try to avoid copying whole drawings repeatedly. Once is the limit. If it's absolutely necessary to copy a whole drawing beyond that, I'll WBLOCK the graphics in the drawing and paste them into a fresh one, as this keeps out any unused bloat that might be in the original. But I no longer copy a dwg, and rename it as something else.
Jim Seefeldt
Electrical Engineering Technician
However, one way that a drawing can become corrupt is by copying it, renaming it, and editing it. Over time, the copies accumulate errors that are then copied into the next generation. This eventually leads to sporadic drawing behavior or other instabilities.
'Best Practice' drafting, such as running AUDIT on a drawing, purging it of unused data, etc. don't always seem to prevent this kind of corruption.
I once had to redo a drawing that had been copied and renamed numerous times for over a decade. The original one was from the early 2000's. The more recent copies were giving us problems - failing the AUDIT command, random crashes and instabilities. So the decision was made to redraw the base file. We still had the original but I didn't know - I redrew the whole thing. When we found it, and made comparisons to the newer versions of it that had been copied and renamed over and over, it had zero problems. Everything that didn't work in the copies, worked in the original. Despite being way over 10 years old, that drawing was fine.
Because of that, I try to avoid copying whole drawings repeatedly. Once is the limit. If it's absolutely necessary to copy a whole drawing beyond that, I'll WBLOCK the graphics in the drawing and paste them into a fresh one, as this keeps out any unused bloat that might be in the original. But I no longer copy a dwg, and rename it as something else.
Jim Seefeldt
Electrical Engineering Technician
It's rare to actually determine exactly how or why a dwg file became corrupted.
However, one way that a drawing can become corrupt is by copying it, renaming it, and editing it. Over time, the copies accumulate errors that are then copied into the next generation. This eventually leads to sporadic drawing behavior or other instabilities.
'Best Practice' drafting, such as running AUDIT on a drawing, purging it of unused data, etc. don't always seem to prevent this kind of corruption.
I once had to redo a drawing that had been copied and renamed numerous times for over a decade. The original one was from the early 2000's. The more recent copies were giving us problems - failing the AUDIT command, random crashes and instabilities. So the decision was made to redraw the base file. We still had the original but I didn't know - I redrew the whole thing. When we found it, and made comparisons to the newer versions of it that had been copied and renamed over and over, it had zero problems. Everything that didn't work in the copies, worked in the original. Despite being way over 10 years old, that drawing was fine.
Because of that, I try to avoid copying whole drawings repeatedly. Once is the limit. If it's absolutely necessary to copy a whole drawing beyond that, I'll WBLOCK the graphics in the drawing and paste them into a fresh one, as this keeps out any unused bloat that might be in the original. But I no longer copy a dwg, and rename it as something else.
Jim Seefeldt
Electrical Engineering Technician
However, one way that a drawing can become corrupt is by copying it, renaming it, and editing it. Over time, the copies accumulate errors that are then copied into the next generation. This eventually leads to sporadic drawing behavior or other instabilities.
'Best Practice' drafting, such as running AUDIT on a drawing, purging it of unused data, etc. don't always seem to prevent this kind of corruption.
I once had to redo a drawing that had been copied and renamed numerous times for over a decade. The original one was from the early 2000's. The more recent copies were giving us problems - failing the AUDIT command, random crashes and instabilities. So the decision was made to redraw the base file. We still had the original but I didn't know - I redrew the whole thing. When we found it, and made comparisons to the newer versions of it that had been copied and renamed over and over, it had zero problems. Everything that didn't work in the copies, worked in the original. Despite being way over 10 years old, that drawing was fine.
Because of that, I try to avoid copying whole drawings repeatedly. Once is the limit. If it's absolutely necessary to copy a whole drawing beyond that, I'll WBLOCK the graphics in the drawing and paste them into a fresh one, as this keeps out any unused bloat that might be in the original. But I no longer copy a dwg, and rename it as something else.
Jim Seefeldt
Electrical Engineering Technician
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