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Do stop moving of cut view symbols during view update

Do stop moving of cut view symbols during view update

Hello,

 

Please find a way to stop the annoying cut views symbols movement during detail update.

 

In this case below 11 symbols were first manually moved and during view depth update they moved and some of them over dimension lines.

 

Cut view Symbols.jpg

 

Regards,

 

Ilko Dimitrov

16 Comments
acbsdesign
Mentor

 

Hello,

 

Per attached screen shot, please prevent moving / updating detail cut views when updating other cut views from same detail.

 

Similar to movement of labels, compass marks and messing up dimensions, updating a cut view causes mess by moving other cut views.

 

Once a cut view is manually moved, dimensions and labels adjusted-updating shall be blocked and not initiated by updating other cut views from same detail.

 

The picture as you can see is messy. Hopefully this will be considered 'an important' improvement and it will find a place in the busy development team schedule.

 

Regards,

 

Ilko Dimitrov

 

haedicu
Alumni
Status changed to: Gathering Support

We will be further evaluating this one in the near future and will keep you posted if we need any additional feedback or clarification. Please feel free to continue voting on this one as it will help us with the continued evaluation.

cclemmercadman
Explorer

I find this to be extremely frustrating, as it creates double work or more depending on number of revisions.  Everyone should flag this post.

haedicu
Alumni
Status changed to: Under Review
 
acbsdesign
Mentor

Section view moved during update.jpg

 

This is another example how a section view is moved over another view during detail update.

fd-disegni
Contributor

ME TOOSmiley Sad

acbsdesign
Mentor

All of us TOO.

acbsdesign
Mentor

The man with the archives-are the 50 votes enough now?

lukes
Participant

Hello,

this is very frustrating and I am also joining a request for redress.

DumitruBerteanu
Community Manager

Hello,

 

While I was reviewing this idea I struggled to reproduce it on a drawing from my side. The views do not move unless the rearrange view command is used on a drawing, and cut symbols have an internal flag that is triggered when the symbol is manually moved, which means that it can have two states:

- automatic (symbol was not moved manually) - it will reevaluate its position and move if needed during update, if it no longer have "room". An example here would be : You have an attached plate (a gusset) that requested a cut. The symbol is placed "above" the gusset. If the gusset size is modified in the model (its size along Y for example is increased), then the symbol will move during update to accommodate the new "above" position, avoiding collision with the element . 

- manual (symbol was moved at least once by its grip) - the symbol no longer moves, regardless of what happens around it. 

 

It would be great if you could help me with some examples of those symbols or views moving. It is important to know if this issue appears on shop or GA drawings, manual or automatic cuts, and also the Advance Steel version. 

 

Thank you very much,

Dumitru Berteanu

acbsdesign
Mentor

 

Dumitru,

 

 

 

acbsdesign
Mentor

Mess for a notebook caseMess for a notebook case 

@DumitruBerteanu,

Attached please find a screen shot of a messed dwg during update, model is too large to attach here, but basically as you can see also other users are complaining about same issues-symbols moving, and section views regenerating and moving.

Thank you again for looking at this and have a great day.

Ilko Dimitrov, ACBS

acbsdesign
Mentor

@DumitruBerteanu,

 

Drawing was created initially last fall before FX2. Dimensions are all messed up.

 

After XF2 dimensions are more stable, I really appreciate your work making them stable.

 

The next big thing IMO is to stop default views from regenerating, and moving (!!!) during update.

 

Please send this screenshot to your product manager for review and comment, he is usually denying any issue that exists in Advance Steel, at least this is what he is reporting to his manager!

 

I have the contact info of the new CEO of Autodesk, I will probably end up calling him and explain what are the remaining issues with Advance.

 

I know we may be asking sometimes for many things, but basics are still not covered.

 

Ignorance is never a good friend of productivity.

 

Have a great day.

 

Ilko Dimitrov

ACBS

acbsdesign
Mentor

@DumitruBerteanu

Hi Dumitru,

I have a model with dwg sample where the section view symbols moved, please send me a link where to upload it.

Thank you.

Ilko Dimitrov,

ACBS

DumitruBerteanu
Community Manager
Status changed to: Implemented
 
acbsdesign
Mentor

@DumitruBerteanu 

Great job, so far - not moving in AS2020.

Thank you.

Ilko Dimitrov

ACBS

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We use RollWorks to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by RollWorks. Ads are based on both RollWorks data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that RollWorks has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to RollWorks to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. RollWorks Privacy Policy

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