ACC (Autodesk Docs) - Markups need improving

[Chad-Smith]

The markups in Autodesk Docs are terrible. BIM 360 Docs Markups are far superior.

Put simply, we need BIM 360 Markups in Autodesk Docs.

Autodesk Docs Markups:

• Require more clicks to do the same thing; the UI is not as good as BIM 360.
• Currently creates individual 'markups' for each drawing element. BIM 360 does this so much better by allowing multiple drawing elements to be added (grouped) into a single 'markup', for easier tracking.
• For the previous reason, the new Markups Panel (found on the left of the UI), is useless. I don't know why I would want a navigation panel for dozens/hundreds of individual drawing elements on the drawing? This new panel adds zero value.
• The Markup Panel doesn't even zoom to the individual elements when selected. 🙄
• They can't be archived.
• They don't slip onto newer versions of the same document. So how are markups tracked?
  Fixed in Build Sheets, but not Docs.
• Markups are completely absent on the ACC/PlanGrid mobile app in Docs.
• Allow the creation of markups in 3D views. Partially implemented for 3D view Issue thumbnails which can be marked up.

And as a side comment, both Autodesk Docs and BIM 360 Docs don't allow markups to be added to Issues.

Given the many limitations of markups in Autodesk Docs, it needs a huge overhaul. While BIM 360 Docs markups are not perfect, they do allow for a logical workflow for capture and resolution.

Update: I'll strikethrough any items as they are implemented.

[pjryanGC48M]

In addition to these comments, the capabilities of Sheets should not be limited to an additional Build license rather integrated into ACC. Within a BIM 360 Project designers were able to perform internal review via Plans within the Autodesk AEC Collection, however in order to utilize the same features within an ACC project you must acquire an additional license that is centered around work during the construction stage not the design stage. 

- Sheets should be integrated into the ACC via the Autodesk AEC Collection.

- Sheets should allow markups to transition onto newer versions and be archived or using the compare feature the sheets should present the markups so that they can be checked between versions.

- If Autodesk is slowly pushing all users towards ACC, they should at least carry over the features that we find critical to our workflows that did not require change.

[craig_dunn2]

All of the above, and most importantly copy comments between mark ups so you don't have to say the same thing time and time again, saving time.

[rdzrichart]

An option per project in which you select you to show by default just the markups of the current version.... it show EVERYTHING.... and if you upload a new version, it should hide automatily... With the option to see past markups popsted (or not)

[postrovsky]

@rdzrichart, the current system is just right; it should show all previous markups, otherwise the entire idea is ruined. Old markups are overlayed on top of the new version to verify that the markups were implemented. This works just fine.

[postrovsky]

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@Chad-Smith wrote:

And as a side comment, both Autodesk Docs and BIM 360 Docs don't allow markups to be added to Issues.

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Can we say this is implemented in ACC for Issues for 3D models, allowing for markups on the model snapshot?

[LyndonLutchmiah6159]

Hello,

any news concerning :

• Currently creates individual 'markups' for each drawing element. BIM 360 does this so much better by allowing multiple drawing elements to be added (grouped) into a single 'markup', for easier tracking.
• For the previous reason, the new Markups Panel (found on the left of the UI), is useless. I don't know why I would want a navigation panel for dozens/hundreds of individual drawing elements on the drawing? This new panel adds zero value.??

It was posted in 2021 and  still no improvement?

[Adam_McLoughlinWUR3J]

Hi,

Just wondering if there has been any development with the archiving of Markups?

Our ACC system is set up so we have pdf's located in ACC files. This enables our users to apply markups and issues to the drawings.

When a new version of the file is uploaded, the markups are still visible on the latest pdf file. This works well as we don't lose the markups when adding new versions.

However, when the markups have been rectified on the drawing/file, there is no way of storing these for future reference. The option of deleting these is not acceptable, as this removes any traceability of when & whom marked up the changes.

On another note, has anyone noticed that even with "god powers" that you can't view all unpublished markups on a file?

[LyndonLutchmiah6159]

Hello Adam,

I do completely agree with you, that deleting mark ups is not acceptable at all.

Hope that someone from Autodesk will reply.

Does anyone have the feeling that ACC docs is a lot less rapid as BIM 360 when creating and commenting in a Mark UP?

[david2XPSA]

It is critical for markups to have the ability to be a child of an issue. Without that it's impossible for markups to really be useful. If you have a coordination issue for example. You need to lower an area of ceilings to a lower height. You mark it up with a polygon and text to indicate the new height. Those markups need to relate back to the issue that created that change. Possibly mechanical trades that needed more room. Keep in mind how large a quantity of issues and markups start to be added to one sheet on large construction projects. They will overlap and make a big mess unless there is a way of them to be grouped together. The issue level is how they should be grouped together. Thank you for improvements we appreciate the hard work!

[LyndonLutchmiah6159]

@david2XPSA  totally agree with you and please (to Autodesk) bring the mark up as it was before and make it more fluid and rapid. thanks 

[vaughan.giles7AGEV]

I've tried gaining grounds on my own post as well,  though by comparison it's only a year old.

ACC Markups tools, and ACC PDF Viewer - Improvements Required - Autodesk Community

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Though I haven't been lucky enough to have valuable input from Autodesk!

[rick_notari]

If I have to hear Bluebeam mark-up tools are far superior again 😂. It's very frustrating.

[jonminick]

Hi @Chad-Smith I'm transitioning the status of this Idea to "Future Consideration" given that a couple of these are still being considered by the team. But thank you for maintaining the individual requests in your Idea and thank you for sharing. Glad to see these being marked off!

Cheers

[Chad-Smith]

Thanks @jonminick

I've been fortunate to have recently seen some of the roadmap items which should (eventually) help close out the items in this idea. And, numerous other newer features. Good things are slowly coming.

[shaun.r.clough]

Discovered yesterday, that markups are now bleeding through to the next version of the document, it's a start.  We now need grouped markups and archiving of markups and then we'll be close to on par with BIM 360, lol.

[l_ramage]

Until they carry over into the Published space on ACC docs, we are wasting substantial time in replicating these for Status B files - Very disappointing, and the Stamps tool now mimics same so not added value at all