thumbnail composite material in 3dsmax 2017

[g.caloi]

hi guys,

when i put a composite material in the material editor, i can't see anymore the thumbnail preview for each texture which is really annoying and i only see a black bar inside the thumbnail. till 3dsmax 2016 everything worked fine. How to fix this?

thank u guys

[RGhost77]

I confirm, same bug (max 2017 sp3). Please submit as bug.

[Alfred.DeFlaminis]

Hello @RGhost77 and @g.caloi,

Thanks for the heads up, I have submitted this to the bug tracker and can confirm it's happening to me too.  This was previously unreported.

Best Regards,

[g.caloi]

good morning. i've just installed the 2017.1 update...and THE COMPOSITE BUG STILL THERE! this is unacceptable

[Alfred.DeFlaminis]

Hello @g.caloi,

I have attached your message to the bug report.  

Best Regards,

[Anonymous]

Yep! 2017 sp3 and currently thumbnails in Composite map is really unusable, its a hell to work with it! Please fix this ASAP!

[Alfred.DeFlaminis]

Hello @Anonymous and welcome to the community,

I appreciate that you took the time to post here, thank you for sharing your thoughts about this.  I realize this is an important issue to many people.  I have entered this issue into the tracking system, rest assured.  

Best Regards,

[Anonymous]

When is this getting fixed? It's pretty impossible to work with. Is there no work around?

[Alfred.DeFlaminis]

Hello @Anonymous,

This is still currently on the to do list, unfortunately.  I don't know exactly when it be addressed but I have updated the log with your comment.  

Best Regards,

[Anonymous]

Ohhh, in addition to mentioned problem, in this version of Max (2017 sp3), layers of Composite map does not save it's new order after reordering (they loose new order after I'm going to another material, map, reopen material editor e t.c...)!!! Whaaat???

I'm working in Max almost 15 years, but this version is the most bugged ever! (( Did test-team tested features that was changed at least a little bit?

[Alfred.DeFlaminis]

Thank you for reporting this @Anonymous,

I've updated the tracker with a video file on how to repro this.  

Best Regards,

[Anonymous]

I think that the problem @mikhail.martynovsky, is reporting is more serious than anything. It is like a bad joke. You return to the previous lvl on the material and then go back to the composite material and it doesn't keep the layers on their correct order, so 3dsmax is doing whatever it wants. I was going to report the problem because I thought that I was doing something wrong and no one has this stupid problem, but I just found this post and to me is absurd that this is related to the software and there is still no solution for it. 

[Alfred.DeFlaminis]

Hello @Anonymous,

Yes, this seems to have occurred with the release of SP3.  I updated the log with more info and a video on it, and that's all I can do for now as it won't obey layer orders at all, as noted.  Wasn't logged til recently, so please don't hesitate to report it in the forums if you see something in the future, I'll help in any way I can or log it myself.  

Best Regards,

[stefanbaur6198]

Just wanted to tune in to complain about the composite material behaviour.

I have used it alot (almost every material) and if i have to change these materials in Max2017 it is very frustrating.

Please hurry up with fixing this (for me major) problem!

Kind regards

Stefan

[Alfred.DeFlaminis]

Hello @stefanbaur6198,

Yes this is a problem that affects me as well outside of work quite a bit, I have updated the tracker with a copy of your comment and a link to this thread.  

Best Regards,

[pokoy]

I didn't notice the re-ordering of maps but if it's true this is a showstopper for me. I'm just switching render scenes over to 2017, I'm glad I found this thread as it'll save me some headaches.

Another problem I have is that the blending modes don't redraw, I have to hover over them in order to redraw to see them. Anyone else seeing this?

Thanks for your help, Alfred!

[pokoy]

I'm trying to investigate the re-ordering issue, this is super important to me as it means I can't render use 2017 for rendering at all.

I tried to reproduce this but I don't think I'm seeing the same issue. Can anyone clarify:

- does the Composite Map change the order of the submaps in the list or only its layout in the Slate Material Editor?

- if it does change the order, does it change blending modes together with the corresponding submap or do they stay in place?

- if it does change the order, do you see any pattern? For example, does it re-order submaps by their names in alphabetical order or is there any other pattern it follows? This would be an important bit of info for the developers.

- did this happen after you installed the Security Fix (2017.1)?

Can someone post screenshots of the re-ordering or repro steps? I'd love to escalate this in the beta but can't repro on my PC, so anything that helps to understand what happens would be great to have.

[pokoy]

Nevermind, just managed to reproduce this. Also, it appears that it's an acknowledged bug and even a knowledge base article exists:

https://beta.autodesk.com/project/feedback/view.html?cap=9285baa2a65442e8ae5bc4eec88e790e&uf=853D571...

Please make sure all of the bugs mentioned in this thread are fixed in an upcoming Service Pack for Max 2017.

[Alfred.DeFlaminis]

Hello @pokoy,

I'll put another note into the tracker, I too would like to see it resolved. 

Best Regards,

[Anonymous]

Don't know if anybody have noticed or tried, but I have just downloaded the 3dsmax 2018 and this is unbelievable, but the error of the composite persists. It doesn't show visible thumbnails and it reorders the layers however it likes.  

Sorry Autodesk, but this is so much nerve from you to release this just like that, I paid for the upgrade and this is ridiculous, I have paid for something that is broken.