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Warnings (show view options)

Warnings (show view options)

When managing your warnings, and select the show button, the view show is not the view you would like to see.  ie: 3d view, blank view, different floor plan.  Instead, when you hit show, we would like to see a prompt to select the view we wish to see.

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JanUsinger
Enthusiast

I don't think this is important as there is a very efficent workaround for this:

Export warning list to a html file.

Copy (CTRL+C) the ID code from that html file.

Command 'Select Element by ID' ( shortcut "ID") in Revit, paste (CTRL+V) the code in the box and 'OK'.

Use the free addin "Section Box" to generate a cropped 3D view for you.

Rinse and repeat for each warning.

 

 

bosborne
Advocate

Jan-

 

I disagree with your statement that the workaround is "efficient".  How much time is lost each time you:

1.  Have to leave Revit to Ctrl-C copy an ID

2. Have to Open "Select element By ID" and Ctrl-V paste then click Show

3. Close the Select By ID box

4. generate th cropped 3d view

5. Then rinse and repeat???

 

In the time you do one warning round of that, you could have made it through 3-4 warnings without ever leaving the warnings dialog box = more efficient.  I don't disagree that the workaround works for a few warnings, but when dealing with many,many element ids, the workaround is not good.  I run into very similar problems when using Copy/Monitor.  it is near impossible sometimes to see what the element being highlighted is without leaving the Coordination Review dialog altogether.

 

 

JanUsinger
Enthusiast

bosborne,

 

Thank you for your comment.

The main aspect I wanted to point out to others was, that there is a very workable workaround for this problem.

Therefore, my point to Autodesk: please prioritize problems for which there is no good workaround available yet.

 

I agree with you that it would be befitial - to not only as angela_bachetti requested get a RELEVANT view straight away - but also the means to fix the warning up while still in the review warnings dialog.

In other words, the whole review warnings could do with a proper make over (including the Copy & Monitor Coordination Review dialog as you mentioned above).

(A PROPER make over, not like the half-baked mess Autodesk did when they "re-designed" their stairs and railings back in 2013).

Anonymous
Not applicable

The Warnings dialog in Revit could use an overhaul. We can't always please Revit rules, so some warnings we want to acknowledge, but they shouldn't clutter new ones.

  • We should be able to "Ignore" or "accept" warnings we no longer want to see, to get a true value of warnings to be concerned about. 
  • When clicking "show" we should be able to nominate view types to search through
  • Assign priority to "types" or "categories" of warnings - perhaps through a warnings options dialog. Eg: Calculation warnings, duplicate warnings etc. 
  • We need an "isolate" button that isolates the offending objects in view
  • More information in the warning about why profiles aren't working
  • Ability to expand the size of the warnings dialog box
  • Sometimes we do things in Revit that affect dimensions. We are presented with a warning to proceed by deleting dimensions. If we don't click delete, we can't move forward. (In other words, you don't have a choice) I would like an option to see WHICH dimensions are being deleted before I am forced to remove them.
  • Can warnings be tagged with the user name that originally generated them? This is more about training & responsibility than blame games. 
  • We often want to copy ID's from warnings to select them using ID selection, A "Copy ID's of checked items" would be nice. 
  • Help menu provides advice to fix certain type of warnings. This should be accessible in the warnings Dialog "See more Help on this warning" for example. It would help new users resolve issues they are unfamiliar with. 
  • A button "Show properties of selected element". Some warnings can be resolved by simply adjusting a property. 
  • The ability to leave the warnings dialog open while resolving problems. Shouldn't have to close this dialog. 
  • Yellow Pop up warnings should need acknowledgment by clicking 'OK' to stop them disappearing. Users can plow ahead and ignore simple stuff, slowly racking up silly warning messages. 
  • When selecting elements with warnings, the 'Show related Warnings' in the contextual ribbon I feel is not obvious enough. The element should get an exclamation point hovering over it on screen or have a seperate selection colour.
  • The ability to sort warnings by date created
  • Warnings relating to objects in closed worksets should indicate this, to reduce confusion, perhaps in brackets (Workset is currently closed)
  • Option to 'expand' all warnings

Credit to the many users throughout various forums and blogs who have helped formed this list. If you recognise yours, thank you for your input. 

dplumb_BWBR
Advisor

Agreed, there coul dbe a lot of improvement in the Warnings dialog.

I'd at least like to see the ability to right-click a Warning, or a specific line under a Warning, and copy the ID to the Clipboard.

 

Anonymous
Not applicable

Amen!

al very good points but i can't plus you for this one point:

We should be able to "Ignore" or "accept" warnings we no longer want to see, to get a true value of warnings to be concerned about.

 

RMITDAMIEN
Advocate

This has also been posted. I am of the opinion the warnings dialog could do with an overhaul, it's interface is clunky and lacking in many areas to make an easy tool to deal with, which would capture the above suggestion. 

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/warnings-dialog-box-overhaul-ignore-function-more/idi-p/63...

 

sasha.crotty
Community Manager
Status changed to: Under Review

Thanks for your submission and votes on this idea!  We are evaluating where this request falls into our roadmap and will provide an update when we have made a decision. 

 

The Factory

Sahay_R
Mentor

Some more reasons to add an Ignore function to the Warnings dialog box -

 

  • Sometimes there are things which are deliberate design decisions that Revit does not like.
  • Also when we create a model on the basis of a scan of an actual building, the resulting model can't be 100% correct and please Revit.
Anonymous
Not applicable

Practically all of the warning messages you get don't give users a very clear understanding of what has happened. This may be the main reason many modellers just ignore them and allow the files to get slower and slower as the warnings grow in number.

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Considering how frequently error messages occur, relying on Revit to show the "best view" of the element often doesn't provide satisfactory results or even views that show the issue element at all.

The ability to click show and determine whether you want to view the element in your 3D view, or plan, or a specific view would save time, be more helpful and require much less programming effort than trying to get Revit to work this out for users and failing.

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Error Message - There is no open view.PNG

For example, when you know you can see the element in the plan you're already in, but Revit can't work it out...

Status changed to: Gathering Support

In an effort to consolidate threads, we are updating this thread to Gathering Support. We are continuing to evaluate where this request falls into our roadmap and will provide an update when we have made a decision. 

 

We are in the process of improving and consolidating the Revit Ideas. This is by no means a downgrade...simply part of our cleanup efforts. Rest assured that your Idea and feedback is valuable to our teams, and that your Idea will continue to be reviewed. 

 

The Factory

bjornrubin
Participant

Agree.

Even now, 5 years after the posting of the idea, this is true.

My suggestions on how to improve the messages are:

- Better "Show" functionality, Revit should be able to show me which elements are causing the warning, especially if they are visible in the active view which isn't always the case. When tags lose their host it should be possible to see them in their view before they are deleted. 

- In the warning description more information is needed. In this case where floors are overlapping, in it self not a big problem but, if I don't know where they are located it can be a tedious process to correct the issue, the "id" number doesn't help much.

Adding "Constraints" and "Identity data" information will help to speed up warning message management. 

 

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Start by fixing the window resize too. This is ridiculous...

I also wanted to see what are the 4 elements that are being deleted and move them to the next closer level host automatically.

The list doesn't give me any way to do ether so it's almost useless. 

Susana_Duarte_LMSI_0-1758618423187.png

 

Ric_Weber
Advisor

@kimberly_fuhrman-jones, if you could look into the two ideas that @Susana_Duarte_LMSI mentioned above that would be great.  Thank you. 

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