Respect our mind

[mustafahesenow]

Hi All,

I have made this thread to express my impression on ( Response of development team of our post which include errors need to be corrected and to be checked ).

Many post Showed many errors and issues need to be checked by development team have been reported .

And always Mr. @ Artur.Kosakowski  responded to them ( thank you ) That this problem has been forwarded to development team to check.

Then always it comes with no any feed back . like this problem has been sent to trash .

To Autodesk Development Team and Autodesk Leader Please be noted that we are here not to waste our time and when we report for problem you have to thank us and consider it seriously instead of trash it like that . This is really Ashamed and ridiculous .

[Anonymous]

So from the AU transcript I see that Autodesk is clear that React was only an user interface refresh and nothing beyond that was done - ZERO work in order to update the analysis functionality. I've seen the screenshots from React website and it looked like  Sofistik FEA - Sofistik is using AutoCAD as the environment for model creation. Autodesk tried following that path.

This is how Sofistik Sofiplus looks like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDPHiSdPfEg

But we also have an re-assurance from the Product manager from this thread:

"The Robot Structural Analysis developers/management team are aware of your concerns. In addition, they have the lessons learned from the React Structures technology preview. The Autodesk fiscal year ends on January 31. The team is in the process of formulating their plans for FY19 which starts February 1, 2018, and ends January 31, 2019. No promises though."

They have no lessons learned concerning the lacking functionality that was addressed here, because they only transferred Robot into AutoCAD, and they even couldn't  turn it into a finished product.

Please, then, given the title of this thread - be more exact, what are their lessons exactly,beyond working on the UI? Can't the development team speak on their own behalf?

Somehow I doubt I'll get an answer to this question.

I mean, it's not like the Robot developers aren't reading these threads, since this discussion is going on since a while now: https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/robot-structural-analysis-forum/robot-2018/td-p/6985697

So why aren't they replying, instead of some other staff member claiming he has nothing to do with the software anyway, but still taking part in the discussion? I figure there is nothing to speak about, right? Or maybe there will be soon another ambiguous post on the website about the future of structural analysis and BIM

Please give us a direct answer from the development team of Robot -  what are they planning to add to the program in terms of structural analysis. They can address my first post in this thread, since I already pointed out the most important options the program is lacking and which require development.

[mustafahesenow]

Hi @Anonymous

This is what really make me crazy . When you deal with structural analysis means that you deal with safety . Hundreds of codes , thousands of books are presented in this field to provide you a guide to make good assumptions and reasonable simulations then after you get the forces you go for design the structural members. Not even like that in many cases you required to do more than one model to simulate more all the cases to cove the design requirements . They are thinking that the structural design is only prepare model and then one click to analyze it then another one click to design it .  

So please Respect the mind of structural engineers respect the science . Respect many foundations have been established just to provide guides how to do the structural design .

Hopefully we wont encounter like these failures on our designed buildings using RSA  even though alot of problems have been discovered in the design elments.

[mustafahesenow]

When you have mega building leave all the softwares and go with Robot .

One of my projects Al Aqaria  5 At ECQ Doha Qatar .

[mustafahesenow]

Hi Guys ,

This is one clear example show how much Autodesk care about structural analysis .

There was powerful software killed in 2015 , Name of this software CBS . Maybe it looks okay to stop it especially there is one another which is RSA .

But the thing which is not understood at all that they dint notice or maybe they dont care even to transfer those CBS powerful features to RSA .

Do you know That CBS is The most fastest software in Modeling of multistory building even mach more faster than Revit .Do you know by just preparing DFX files for the floors by good concept with zero accuracy you will get perfect model by just few clicks on the settings when you import these file.

Do you know That there is in CBS Wind load generation for the building it is generating the wind load as a linear loads applied on the slab edge by just few clicks to set the Code parameter.

Unfortunately CBS killed without implement its technology in RSA . 

Watch CBS Features .

Save Our RSA

[wassim_said_said]

Yes Dear Mustafa,

CBS is one of the best and easiest tools to model RC buildings.  It is still used till now after year of stop development.

Autodesk did not give any alternative to replace its powerful tools.

If they want to keep everything modeled within Revit , why they did not implement the powers of CBS within Revit

as an easiest way to transfer the Autocad DWG files to the BIM  (As Autocad is still the most used software for drawings

by architects in my country and many other countries). 

Also the Link between Revit- Robot is very weak and need many improvements.

Why there was not a smooth transfer between the old design method and the BIM design process?

Now we have no easy way to model within Revit  (From Autocad Drawings) none good and strong link between Revit and Robot 

(Supposed to be the official structural design software for Autodesk).

We are not against a new design procedure  but we want an easiest way and safest manner of design with powerful tools not 

big disorder and more tasks without any benefits.

Autodesk you must study well the structural design process in the AEC industry as to make it easy , clear , innovative 

in real world not in the virtual one as to reach the desired results safely.

Best regards,

Wassim

[mustafahesenow]

Hi @wassim_said_said

This is really not good . I am wondering why Autodesk doing this . Buying new technology then stop it .

[mustafahesenow]

Hi Guys,

I am just wondering how to do all of these projects in 24 days only Using Forge drive!

I hope that the experts on Forge drive and cloud services can answer us .

Can This productivity achieved by Cloud services or you just want to do any thing non sense and thats all . Please stop playing with our mind its obvious that you dont know anything about structural analysis and design .

[Anonymous]

I don't understand why there is so much animosity to Revit within this thread. To think that properly integrating a structural engine into Revit would kill structural engineering is a bit reactionary; there's quite a contingent of us that find that process of actually building a model in Robot completely antiquated and try to limit our interaction with the software strictly to analysis. I don't think you should be falling over yourself because you modelled a huge building by copying and pasting a load of floor plates when the combination of Dynamo and Revit can be used to created and rationalise far more complex geometries.

I would rather see Robot's features properly integrated into Revit, so that it receives the attention it's clearly not getting as a standalone program. Whether you like it or not, the wider industry is going towards integration and visual programming. I don't see how cloud computing is contradictory to good structural analysis either? 

[Anonymous]

January, 2021, and everything said in here, unfortunatelly, still holds.
I started to study the software about 2 years ago, believing in Autodesk's promisse its integration with Revit was flawsless. The joke is on me, I guess...

[sayedattia1965]

Dear Mustafa,

it is a good thing to discover a bug in the software and to announce it in the forum for Auto desk team solution.our

However, and considering your title (Respect our mind) , 

I wish you also to respect the forum members and not to use bad expression in your message such as :f**k.

And please let us give a chance to the technical team to solve this matter.

Regards