Viewport boundary is too large

[Anonymous]

The viewport around my section is not the same size as the crop region I have set?

My crop region is in tight around my section but the viewport is enormous by comparison. It makes it hard to place the views and align them as the view disappears when dragging the viewport around the sheet.

See attached screen shot

Anyone know why this is happening and how do I fix it?

Once again Revit is making a simple task VERY difficult!

[Anonymous]

@Anonymous Hi Adam,

Is this section a 2D or 3D live section?  You state your crop reagion around the section is tight around it.  Have you checked to see if any other crop is turned on? (e.g.- annotation or section box?) Or if there are any other sections outside or on the sheet interferring?

[Anonymous]

This is a 2D section cut form a floor plan. I have done this many times before without an issue. The crop region is shown in the screen shot I put with my original post. The annotation region is set 25mm outside the crop region. This has only happened in Revit 2019. I can't try it in 2018 as Autodesk have not allowed us to back save to previous versions like you can in AutoCAD!
Still no closer to an answer then.....?????

[Anonymous]

@Anonymous im intrigued. Is it possible to attach your file to take a closer look into it?

[Anonymous]

I've uploaded the model to dropbox.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9mwr1dtuczngy70/18094%20V1.rvt?dl=0

Look at drawing 11 (Foundation sections and basement level floorplan)

[Anonymous]

Thank  you @Anonymous. from what i am seeing in your model you did actually use live sections not 2d drafting views.  The large viewport boundary is actually not for the section but for the floor plan itself from which the section is referenced.  I would say that if you want to use the live sections as cut at this point without resorting to creating separate drafting views i would create independent views of the sections and modify the crop extents of that view so it does not hinder the main floor plan crop.  Then i would crop those to the main portion you need to show for the three sections and drag in those independent views into your sheet.  Only issue is how it might affect you placing the section cut on the plan. 😞

[Anonymous]

I still don't understand why its doing this as I am creating the sections in the same way I have in the past. I am fairly new to Revit so I'm not sure how to do what you've suggested nut I appreciate your advice and assistance.

[Anonymous]

@Anonymous sorry, hopefully someone gets it figured out.  I just tried by creating a duplicate view of the view you are using to reference one of your sections and i too still get that views crop extent as not editable when i drag it to a sheet.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for trying....fingers crossed.

[martinTstewart_Adsk]

Hi Adam,

I downloaded your model and found that if I open Section 1-1 and window over the large area, I get this: 23 Sub-connections that don't look intentional:

If I delete those and then place that view on Sheet 11 again, it works:

I hope that helps. 

If my reply was helpful, please "Like" or click the "Accept as Solution" button below (or both).

[amy]

By deleting the sub-connections as previously posted you loose all the connections previously created ie: miter or base plates or coping etc. 

I am having this same issue only in 2019 Revit. 

If anyone finds a solution I would love to hear it. 

[ioana-maria.bucescu]

The viewport becomes larger than normal if a connection that has no visible elements (connections that only contain cuts) are present in the model. If a visible element, such as a weld (or bolts, plates, anchors) is added to the connection, the viewport will behave normally.  For parametric cuts (cope, miter, cut through, cut by), a weld can be added from "Modify Parameters". For custom connetions containing only cuts, a weld can be added by first creating the weld and then editing the custom connection and adding the weld to it.  

[Anonymous · Accepted solution]

We have the same problem. You can just hide invisible sub-connections outside crop view. Also I found out that when you make structural connection and you are sure that you wont need to edit it you can break it, then it won't show as invisible sub-connection.

[amy]

How do you hide the sub-connections?

[Anonymous]

If you double click inside the "oversize" viewport, to activate, it then draw a selection window over the area that appears to be blank the connections will show up (blue on my screen). With them highlighted right click and choose "Hide in View" then "elements". Be sure not to pick anything you don't want to disappear from your view. If you add anymore connections then the viewport window will again be oversized and you will need to repeat the process again.

[Anonymous]

I use basic hiding command.

[jasonmccool8686]

We've been incredibly frustrated by this bug the last few days, and one of our guys finally figured it out on his own before we found this thread on here. But hiding connections, and then hiding any subsequent connections, is just a workaround. Any hope of Autodesk actually fixing this bug so that "crop view" really does crop the view?