View Range problem

[giouvele]

Hi everyone.

I have a project for a building and at the openings, there are steel beams under the slab of the upper floor.

I have been asked to make a plan where I must show the openings and the steel beams as well.

I understand how view range works, but I do not know how to solve this. If the cut level is at the opening I cannot see the steel beam and if it is at the steel beam I cannot see the opening.

Is it possible to have them both?

Sorry for the... sketch. 

Be safe.

[MVE1112 · Accepted solution]

We use overlay views for that.

I would probably make your normal view show the opening and then duplicate this view, disable everything except steel beams and change your view range accordingly.

Than drag and drop your overlay view on top of your original view to show both the opening and the steel beam.

[giouvele]

Thank you so mush for your answer.

I really would never think to do such a thing!

But still, Audodesk, should find a simple way to fix this in order to be able to make this kind of presentations for structural plans. 

I will try your way and get back to you as soon as possible.

I wonder although if there is another solution to follow.

[MVE1112 · Accepted solution]

No problem!

I always use this method to show line loads on floors(walls) and openings below walls.

Since it is more important to see where openings in walls are Below floors, you'd want walls in top of floors to be only shown by their cut pattern without a cut or projection line.

To do this we hide all our walls that are in too if a floor in view, make a duplicate and hide anything but those walls. And drag it over the original view.

This way the walls below the floors can have a thick projection line while the walls above the floor in plan view have the thinnest possible line. 

Makes structural plans way more clear 🙂 

[MVE1112 · Accepted solution]

An example of what i ment:

This floor plan shows very clearly where wall openings are below a concrete floor, and the hatch shows where walls are on top of a floor.

This makes lineloads way more pronounced.

[giouvele]

My dear friend,

I did what you advised me and it worked! Thank you once again.

I would like to ask you 2 more questions.

1. At the original plan, the underlay plan is shaded, how can I change that?

2. Also at the underlay plan, I gave a light grey color to the steel beams through override tool, but when I drag it to the original plan they do not shown as grey but as white.

Hope to hear from you soon.😁

[MVE1112]

1. At the original plan, the underlay plan is shaded, how can I change that?

I believe this is only when you are inside the original view. Not when you exit the view. There is not much to do about that since Revit just greyes out other views when you are inside a view. However, this does not show up when printing so it is just a temporary problem when a user is editing a view. This does not show on PDF or DWG 🙂

2. Also at the underlay plan, I gave a light grey color to the steel beams through override tool, but when I drag it to the original plan they do not shown as grey but as white.

Thats weird? Might be the same issue as above, in that case it should return to grey when you deactivate your active view.

If not, can you post a screenshot/video of that problem? 

[souhayl_othman]

you can have a look at this article so you fully understand the theory of Revit view range : 

https://bimandbeam.com/2022/01/revit-view-range-html/