Rebar Bending Detail Rotation in Schedule – Orientation Not Consistent with Family

Rebar Bending Detail Rotation in Schedule – Orientation Not Consistent with Family

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Rebar Bending Detail Rotation in Schedule – Orientation Not Consistent with Family

valenwppback
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Hello everyone,

 

For some context: I have a Rebar Schedule that includes a Bending Detail column, and this schedule is placed on a sheet.

 

I'm encountering an issue where the Bending Detail for certain Rebar Shapes is automatically rotated within the schedule cell. As a result, the orientation shown in the schedule does not match the actual orientation of the rebar as it will be placed on site (upright). This is problematic because the bending detail should maintain a consistent orientation to avoid confusion during installation.

 

This is the Rebar Shape family:

valenwppback_2-1784734752260.png

And this is how the bending detail appears in the schedule, rotated 90°:

valenwppback_0-1784734649415.png

 

I've already tried rotating the geometry within the family by 90°, 180°, and 270°, but the bending detail still rotates automatically in the schedule.

 

I also noticed that Bending Detail Realistic displays the correct orientation:

valenwppback_3-1784734937136.png

 

However, I haven't been able to use Bending Detail Realistic instead of Bending Detail Schematic in the schedule.

Additionally, bending details placed in views have an Angle instance parameter, but I haven't found a way to modify it within the schedule.

 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!

 

 

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ovidiu_paunescu
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Hi @valenwppback 

 

The BDs in schedule, similar to schematic BDs, are aligned so that they fit efficiently in the cell. For rebar shapes with 90 deg angles between segments, the representation is scaled non-uniformly on x and y axes, to fill the cell.
Some scaling for the hook lengths also occurs in schedule even for bars with different angles between segments, because scaling uniformly bars that are very long would produce hooks that are not really visible. 
Autodesk Revit 2027 Help | Rebar Bending Detail in Schedule Options | Autodesk


For your documentation, would you just need to turn the bar around (rotate 90 deg) or would you expect a different behavior from the current one (scaling of the bar in schedule, etc.)?
Also, for the same shape, used for multiple bars with different dimensions, would you expect different rotations? Or would an option in the shape family, like an affinity for a certain orientation be enough?



Ovidiu Paunescu, M.Sc. Str. Eng.

Sr. Product Owner | Autodesk Revit

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valenwppback
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Hello @ovidiu_paunescu ,

 

Thank you for your detailed explanation.

 

For my documentation, I think it would be useful if the Bending Detail kept the same orientation as defined in the Rebar Shape family editor. I also wouldn't expect different orientations depending on the bar diameter or dimensions.

 

A parameter in the Rebar Shape family to control the orientation used in schedules would be very useful. For example, a setting such as:

  • Automatic (current behavior)
  • Keep family orientation

 

Thanks again for your help!

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lauri_barnhart
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Welcome to the community, @valenwppback.

 

Sounds like the information provided by ovidiu_paunescu helped clarify your issue. If it did, please consider clicking on the 'Accept Solution' button. If more information is needed, please provide an update here.

 

Thanks,


Lauri | Community Manager
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