material takeoff - structural columns - evaluating of area

[Anonymous]

Hello everyone,

I am facing a problem, when i am making material takeoff for concrete columns, there are two values for the columns, that are joined/cut with beams (one for column area - not connected with beam, second for area that column has common with beam, when beam and column have not same material - see attachment)

Please, would it be possible to to have there just one, total area (sum of the both areas) in one row, instead of 2 separated areas ?

I would love to have it in one row (not two separated rows) as a sum of both areas.

Thanks in advance !

Pavel F.

[mariah.ferranti]

Hello @Anonymous,

I'll be happy to take a look and try to help with this. Are you able to post a sample file where you are experiencing this issue, so I can take a look at the material takeoff settings? 

If you don't want to post the file publicly, let me know and I'll be happy to send you a private link to upload it to. 

[Anonymous]

Hello @mariah.ferranti, thank you for your reply.

Sure !

(see attachment)

[mariah.ferranti]

Hello @Anonymous,

Thank you for your patients while I look into this! I was able to play around with the file, and it looks like when un-joining the beam from the column, it reports the area combined, 10 square m. When the beam and column are joined together, the schedule interprets the joined area as a different material (the same as the beam) and places this in a different row.

There may be a way to change this join condition to prevent it, or you may be able to keep them un-joined to prevent the schedule from attempting to merge materials. 

[mariah.ferranti]

Hello @Anonymous,

I wanted to check in and see if the information provided helped, or if you need more assistance. Feel free to reply back if you have any questions or concerns! 

[Anonymous]

Hi @mariah.ferranti,

Firstly, i would like to thank you for your promt reply and your great interest with helping me out.

And to my problem: yes, i did figure these informations out, when i tried to solve this my problem, hovewer i was still unable to solve my problem 😞 I do know that they might be some checkbox, or any way how i could put that 2 values together, to one row. I seachred lot´s of forum, asked many times, but i am still unable to figure it out how it could be done... 😞 And unjoining elements is very, but veery inconvenient solution for me 😞

[mariah.ferranti · Accepted solution]

Hello @Anonymous,

Per this forum post that looks to be dealing with the same sort of thing: Material Quantities Discrepancy/ error  I don't know that there is a way to prevent it besides modeling differently or un-joining the elements. It looks like this is how Revit is working with structural elements, and the smaller areas may be able to be filtered out with some scheduling rules, but I don't know of any way to automatically combine them. 

[Anonymous]

Hi @mariah.ferranti

I was a little bit affraid and expected this kind of response, since i was not able to find any solution, either by myself or on other forums. I will have to deal with that somehow, neverthereless i would like to thank you for your replies, advices and great help! thank you @mariah.ferranti🙂