How to control fill pattern of wall core ONLY on linked model walls

How to control fill pattern of wall core ONLY on linked model walls

Mrogers344
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How to control fill pattern of wall core ONLY on linked model walls

Mrogers344
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I am trying to change the way the SIPS panel walls display in live sections cut through a linked architectural model, to match several dozen drafting views that we have already created. 

 

I have created a a view filter that changes the cut pattern of all wall and roof types containing the word "SIPS".  If I set the filter to use crosshatch small, it does what I want it to, and only fills the core of the wall panels, leaving the sheathing layers blank (possibly just because the pattern is too small to populate the outer sheathing layers?).  But the pattern is too small, and doesn't look like our other views.  If I increase the pattern size, or use the regular diagonal crosshatch pattern, it fills the sheathing layers too. 

 

I also tried to filter by Structural Material, but that doesn't appear to work.  IDK if because the arch walls are not ticked as Structural, or if because it doesn't work for linked models.  How can i make these display the way I want them to?

 

Here are some screenshots:

 

Here's one of the drafting views I need to match:

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Here's with all walls/roof types containing SIPS set to crosshatch small:

 

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Here's the same filter set to the larger crosshatch pattern:

 

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Here are the wall type and assembly properties from the linked model:

 

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GaryOrrMBI
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Three things here.

1) the reason that using Structural Material isn't selecting the desired elements is because the structural element flagged in your screenshot of the wall type's layers is the interior plywood (softwood Lumber) layer and not the SIPS panel layer (see checkbox under the Structural Material column)

 

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 2) Even if they did have this set correctly, the filter would select (and apply overrides to) the entire wall selected using this method (even as your current filter is doing), not just the desired layer.

 

3) The only thing that I'm aware of to select a specific layer would be to create parts for the desired wall, thus making each layer an individual object (yes, you can tab-select the wall from the link and create parts). You can then create and apply filters based on Parts -> Material (or whatever) and apply pattern overrides to the filtered parts (parts must be enabled in the view graphics). If you need to do this in bulk this would not be a viable work flow, but for a given set of wall sections this might be acceptable.

 

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-G

 

Gary J. Orr
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Mrogers344
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Thank you for the clarification and the info.  We are currently controlling the wall panel display in our plan views exactly as you have described, by making parts of them and applying view filters for the parts.  The only issue we run into with that is the possibility of the parts obscuring structural framing behind/underneath of the parts.  I posted about that a couple of weeks ago and the only response I received asked why I was using parts instead of controlling the linked wall visibility via the VG menu; so I just wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking anything. 

 

For these particular sections I am working on, I don't think this is a problem.  I don't see any other way to control the linked arch walls display besides creating parts from them within my own model.

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GaryOrrMBI
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As with anything, scope comes into play. Doing this in a more detailed view such as a wall or detail section it becomes a viable alternative due to the limited scope. Doing such for every wall in any/all plans is a rather large scope, especially given that the scale will probably negate some of the smaller display concerns... Regardless of what some believe, one size does not fit all 🙂

 

As far as potentially obscuring other (possibly embedded) elements... One thing that I often have to stress to my co-workers is: don't become so focused on this one view that you forget that it only represents one small portion of the whole... In this case, that means that there are many other views that can show you any additional elements if you take the time to look, the view that you're detailing is just that, one, very limited, view.

 

Happy Drafting,

-G

Gary J. Orr
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handjonathan
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Hi @Mrogers344 

Thanks a lot for posting your question to the forums!   Has the solution suggested by @GaryOrrMBI helped with your issue?

We look forward to hearing back from you with more information so we can help you as a community! 



Jonathan Hand


Technical Marketing Manager | Construction

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