The same equipment showing on two separate sets of plans.

[isosa9APBT]

I created a set of mechanical plans and plumbing plans. The issue is that the mechanical equipment is showing in the plumbing and mechanical and the same happened with the plumbing equipment showing on both mechanical and plumbing.  Will creating worksets take care of it? How do I isolate the equipment from showing on both sets of plans?

[ToanDN]

Turn off Plumbing Equipment category for Mechanical views and vice versa.  Worksets work to, same manner.

[isosa9APBT]

How do you do that? I'm pretty new to Revit and I'm still figuring out where all the buttons are and what they do. 

[ToanDN]

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@isosa9APBT wrote:

How do you do that? I'm pretty new to Revit and I'm still figuring out where all the buttons are and what they do. 

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VG > untick Plumbing Equipment box for Mechanical views.  If you choose to use Worksets approach, then switch to Worksets tab and similarly, untick Plumbing workset (assuming you already placed Plumbing Equip in that workset).

You can create a View Template with the proper settings and use it for multiple views to avoid repeating steps.

[dmiller_SCE]

You will need to provide more details about your problem and what is showing. The previous post directing you to turn off plumbing equipment is not accurate as Revit has no such category. I believe that your families are all of the mechanical equipment category thus showing on both plan types despite the fact that some is actually Plumbing Equipment vs. Mechanical Equipment. Worksets can help but can also present it's own set of challenges. For example you may find yourself needing to show the same piece of equipment on both plumbing and mechanical plans and worksets would complicate that process. Other option would be to create filters to control the equipment to show on their respective sheets. can you please verify that the families in question actually all belong to the Mechanical Equipment category.

[pkolarik]

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@dmiller_SCE wrote:
You will need to provide more details about your problem and what is showing. The previous post directing you to turn off plumbing equipment is not accurate as Revit has no such category. I believe that your families are all of the mechanical equipment category thus showing on both plan types despite the fact that some is actually Plumbing Equipment vs. Mechanical Equipment. Worksets can help but can also present it's own set of challenges. For example you may find yourself needing to show the same piece of equipment on both plumbing and mechanical plans and worksets would complicate that process. Other option would be to create filters to control the equipment to show on their respective sheets. can you please verify that the families in question actually all belong to the Mechanical Equipment category.

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There's a "plumbing fixtures" and a "mechanical equipment" category. As the previous poster said, that would be the simplest way of controlling those two types of items assuming the plumbing stuff is of the "plumbing fixture" type.

[isosa9APBT]

The project manager wants to use worksets. The same equipment won't be shown on both disciplines. I'm going to try the worksets and see how that works. I never done this type of work so I'm learning as I go. 

[dmiller_SCE]

Yes Revit  has a "Plumbing Fixture" category but not everything that is "Plumbing Equipment" will fall into this category and some equipment is shared by multiple disciplines.  For example an inline pump could be placed in both a mechanical system or a plumbing system. The pump is not a "Plumbing Fixture" but a piece of equipment and almost always categorized as "Mechanical Equipment" in Revit. However we need a way to separate these between disciplines. Simply turning on/off "Plumbing Fixtures" will not work. Worksets is a solution but just making the author of the post aware that worksets could present a different set of problems; however this method is the easiest to understand and use. 

[isosa9APBT]

I'm working with BIM 360 which adds another set of challenges as I'm not sure how the worksets work when working with other disciplines in the cloud. I saw somewhere that I have to make a master central file. But since I'm not the main porject coordinator I' don't know if I make that file or someone else does. or how to even save it as I never had to work with BIM 360.

[dmiller_SCE]

If you are using BIM 360 then you are already using a workshared model and the Central File is the model that is on BIM 360. When you open the model from BIM 360 you are automatically creating a local file on your local machine, but synchronizing and updating the Central file on BIM 360. You can add and modify worksets by going to the Collaborate Tab then the Manage Collaborations panel and select  Worksets. This will bring up the Workset dialog box where you can manage the worksets.

 

[isosa9APBT]

I created the work sets and put my piping for plumbing on the piping or PBL Pipe workset and set it to turn off in the mechanical plan but I can still see it.

[isosa9APBT]

I downloaded the Architectural file from the BIm 360 then renamed it and started working on it doing the mechanical part of it. When I downloaded the architectural file there were not worksets set up so I created the ones I needed. Just not sure how to properly turn off and on things to only be shown in certain sheets and not in others.

[dmiller_SCE · Accepted solution]

Sorry to hear that you are still having problems with this. Without having the actual Revit file it is hard to guide you as you sound new to Revit.

Items that you can verify:

1. Ensure in fact that you actually placed the items in question on the created workset that you are trying to hide. 

2. Are you turning on/ off the worksets  in the actually view or as part of a view template. If trying to change a view template is the view template actually associated to the views.

3. Again if you are making changes as part of a view template  ensure that the workset option is checked so that you are actually controlling the worksets via the template.  

It looks like the project already has quite a number of worksets so I would assume that view templates have already been created.  Who orginally set project up? Do you have an experienced user or BIM Manager to help guide you with this process?

[isosa9APBT]

Number 3 did it. I went inside the View Template and I edited the V/G Overrides Worksets manually to only allow to see the works sets that I want. Thank you very much!

[pkolarik]

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@dmiller_SCE wrote:

Yes Revit  has a "Plumbing Fixture" category but not everything that is "Plumbing Equipment" will fall into this category and some equipment is shared by multiple disciplines.  For example an inline pump could be placed in both a mechanical system or a plumbing system. The pump is not a "Plumbing Fixture" but a piece of equipment and almost always categorized as "Mechanical Equipment" in Revit. However we need a way to separate these between disciplines. Simply turning on/off "Plumbing Fixtures" will not work. Worksets is a solution but just making the author of the post aware that worksets could present a different set of problems; however this method is the easiest to understand and use. 

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And as I said, *if* all the "plumbing stuff" is actually "plumbing fixtures" it will work. Nothing you said here disproves that. Sure, if there's an item that could be in both that could cause a minor issue (which is easily correctable), but the simplest way of doing this is still to just turn off one category or the other if each item is in the appropriate category. But hey, to each his own I guess.

[RobDraw]

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@pkolarik wrote:
the simplest way of doing this is still to just turn off one category or the other if each item is in the appropriate category. 

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What seems simple in theory doesn't always work IRL.

Every project I've worked on has had mechanical equipment that should show on either HVAC or Plumbing or both.

I never cared much for using worksets for visibility and opted for using a number of different filters.

[dmiller_SCE]

@RobDraw well said and exactly how I feel. I also use filters opposed to worksets.

[isosa9APBT]

Unfortunately the project manager requires us to use worksets. Is it possible to still have worksets but not use them for visibility and just use filters? Not sure if we are required to use the worksets for visibility and only use them for other purposes. 

[RobDraw]

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@isosa9APBT wrote:

Unfortunately the project manager requires us to use worksets. Is it possible to still have worksets but not use them for visibility and just use filters? Not sure if we are required to use the worksets for visibility and only use them for other purposes. 

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Worksets have their purpose and can be quite useful. Unfortunately, users coming from AutoCAD want the functionality of layers and worksets can be used in this fashion but using them for visibility overrides some core Revit functionality and can be prone to user error. If your management has determined that they want to use them for visibility, then by all means follow that direction.