Sprinkler Annotation Symbols on angled pipe?

[Anonymous]

So, I have these heads that when they are vertical, the sprinkler symbol shows up appropriately; however, in that same view, that same head will not show its schematic symbol. Is there a way, other than inserting that symbol family manually, to get that symbol to show on angled heads?

Here is the head in plan view when it is perfectly vertical:

...and here is the same head in the same view on angled pipe.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

[Scott_D_ · Accepted solution]

Generic annotations are only visible when they are parallel to the view cut plane.

Anything on an angle or hosted to an angled ceiling will not show the symbol. You will need to show the geometry of the family or put in a generic annotation separately to the sprinkler head family.

[Anonymous]

Thanks, Scott. That's what I have been doing. Was just hoping there was a way. oh well.

[Scott_D_]

It can be a pain getting used to the way it works.

Have you tried using model lines, they might be visible when its at an angle as they are visible in 3D. Can't say I have tried in a long time so that might be a duff steer.

Maybe give this a whirl?

https://knowledge.autodesk.com.......

[Anonymous]

I'll give that a shot and see what happens. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

If you host your 2D symbol on a reference line, you can give the line a rotation parameter.

Then when placing the family in Revit, you can set the symbol rotation to compensate for the slope & bring the symbol back to perpendicular to view.

This applies to lights, etc as well.

[Anonymous]

How are you able to host the 2D symbol to the reference line? I can't find a way to lock it to it.... 

Thanks in advance.

[RobDraw]

I used <this guide> to set up symbols for use on devices that are not lined up with the view.

[Anonymous]

Sorry replying approaching 2 years later. I tried this, in the end, it was just way too much work for the outcome. Instead, I just decided to stay with using heads hosted to work planes. 

[Anonymous]

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@Anonymous wrote:

How are you able to host the 2D symbol to the reference line? I can't find a way to lock it to it.... 

Thanks in advance.

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Well, you are placing in a view so it will just be perpendicular to your point of view. You can choose to set it to this or that level in the same way you can, say, a sprinkler head. For sprinkler heads specifically, I default to using heads hosted to work planes. That, even for heads on a slope, still allows the 2D annotation symbol to be visible. 

[Anonymous]

I actually tried to use this guide yesterday but could not get through a few steps. Does anyone have an example Revit file by chance I could look at?

He explains using a reference plane in this example where everything else I have read says you have to use a reference line which I can host a detail component to. 

Also when I do make the item host to a reference plane and set an angle parameter from the elevation I can make it flex if I keep it between 1 degree and 89 but if I go to 0 degrees it breaks it. Should I have it separate at say 5 degrees and have a flat one for the normal ceilings as well?

Thanks for the replies.

[Anonymous]

Hello @Anonymous,

Open the sprinkler family and over there in the Family Category and Parameters you can find a parameter “Maintain Annotation Orientation”. This will help you with showing the nested symbol family in the project plan view. Just put the symbol family in a plan view of the original face-based family. This applies to: Communication Devices, Data Devices, Electrical Fixtures, Fire Alarm Devices, Lighting Devices, Nurse Call Devices, Security Devices, Sprinkler and Telephone Devices.

Best Regards,

Dominik