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Revit MEP 2009 Solution Finder

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Revit MEP 2009 Solution Finder

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I'm not sure if this is a problem with Revit's solution finding algorithm or if it's my modeling skill, but since I've been modeling in various software for 18 years, I think it's Revit.

I opened a new family file with a generic template and created a circle with the center on the two reference planes. Then I created another circle to the right centered on the front/back reference plane and another circle above the first two circles and between them. I wanted to have an equal 7" measurement between all circles (center to center). I dimensioned them center to center and then as a changed the dimensions, Revit randomly changed other dimensions instead of finding a solution that did not require changing other dimensions. I tried locking dimensions which worked at first but when I had two dimensions locked at 7" and changed the third dimension to 7", it said a solution could not be found. It also gave the same error message when I dragged either circle with an unlocked dimension. It didn't keep the two dimensions locked and let the circle pivot around the center of another circle. But when I tried it with one locked dimension, I was able to move one circle around until the other two dimensions read 7" and then released and everything was okay. I locked the two dimensions and now it's fine. so there clearly was a solution and Revit couldn't find it. It doesn't seem to understand degrees of freedom.

Is Revit MEP 2010's solution finder better? (Not that I can use it right now since the other contractors I am working with are all using 2009).
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Revit MEP 2009 Solution Finder

I'm not sure if this is a problem with Revit's solution finding algorithm or if it's my modeling skill, but since I've been modeling in various software for 18 years, I think it's Revit.

I opened a new family file with a generic template and created a circle with the center on the two reference planes. Then I created another circle to the right centered on the front/back reference plane and another circle above the first two circles and between them. I wanted to have an equal 7" measurement between all circles (center to center). I dimensioned them center to center and then as a changed the dimensions, Revit randomly changed other dimensions instead of finding a solution that did not require changing other dimensions. I tried locking dimensions which worked at first but when I had two dimensions locked at 7" and changed the third dimension to 7", it said a solution could not be found. It also gave the same error message when I dragged either circle with an unlocked dimension. It didn't keep the two dimensions locked and let the circle pivot around the center of another circle. But when I tried it with one locked dimension, I was able to move one circle around until the other two dimensions read 7" and then released and everything was okay. I locked the two dimensions and now it's fine. so there clearly was a solution and Revit couldn't find it. It doesn't seem to understand degrees of freedom.

Is Revit MEP 2010's solution finder better? (Not that I can use it right now since the other contractors I am working with are all using 2009).
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Simple - see attached.
You need to follow Revits rules on object creation, especially when it comes to families, as controls in families are using reference planes and lines, hope this helps Edited by: simon.whitbread on May 29, 2009 9:15 AM
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Simple - see attached.
You need to follow Revits rules on object creation, especially when it comes to families, as controls in families are using reference planes and lines, hope this helps Edited by: simon.whitbread on May 29, 2009 9:15 AM
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The finished file looks good, but I don't know how you got there.
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The finished file looks good, but I don't know how you got there.

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