piping model line and connector are offset from the 3d mep fitting family

[Anonymous]

hi Revit users and expert

I am not the expert when comes to fitting family

is it possible to take a look at this and let me know why it behaves as it is

i will attach the family in question

[J.Wehmer]

I am not able to replicate the results you are experiencing. This leads me to believe that it is an issue with your Revit settings.

Wye in family

Wye in project, connected

Wye family 3d

Everything appears to be behaving properly at the family level. When I load it into a project and connect it up, it still holds the proper fitting alignment.

Can you send us a copy of the project in which you are having issues. Best to strip down the project to a smaller size for the sake of upload/download.

[Anonymous]

here is the file in question with the issue

[Anonymous]

i tried it with Revit 2017,2018 and 2019, metric and imperial template and still the same issue on my side

[J.Wehmer]

Looks like it is an issue with your annotation scale

Try another family, getting the annotation settings to cooperate is a bit labor intensive sometimes. and might not be worth it for a PVC wye fitting

[Anonymous]

thanks a lot but i have a lof of fitting families with the same issue so i need to figure out the source and see if there is an easy fix

[Anonymous]

but i am curious how the family worked well on your side

[tino.freitas]

Hi @Anonymous,

it seems your family has been altered and is not behaving as it should when the "Use Annotation Scale" is on. When this setting is checked the annotation should change size according to what you have defined in your Specify Pipe Settings and connectors should still coincide with the linework of the object.

Please take a look at attached file Wye 45 Deg Reducing Double - PVC - Sch 40 - DWV.rfa from our library and let me know if you still have any questions.

[Anonymous]

Some Autodesk family gets the same behavior. Go to the Australia folder and pipe fittings, copper elbow

[Anonymous]

i dont need an alternative solution i need a technical solution to the issue.

take the elbow Autodesk family found in 

C:\ProgramData\Autodesk\RVT 2017\Libraries\Australia\Pipe\Fittings\BS EN 1254 Copper\Brazed

and ask someone from the debugging department to figure out a solution, i have plenty of elbow not one but many, with similar issue, i would like to know the source to fix.

it may work for the 3'' pipe but it will shift with 4'' pipe

[Anonymous]

you're going to have to turn off the annotative scaling or go to the mechanical settings and change it manually there to resolve this. If it's in course view I don't see why you would need it anyway. Remember revit was designed to be a 3d design platform, not 2d, they have AutoCAD for that. So they aren't going to devote a lot of time to perfecting course settings. Here is a link to an article to kind of break this down further, its not your exact issue but its the settings behind your issue. Scaling control

[Anonymous]

i need the annotaion scale to be active, this is not normal behavior, the project the client is asking coarse single line. as i said i need a fix of the issue not alternative solutions. Thanks

[Anonymous]

i am able to fix some fitting but others can't find a solution, its otb autodesk copper elbow fitting families and it does have issues

[Anonymous]

Ok, I think I have gotten to the root of the problem but I'm not entirely sure how to fix it. The location of the connector is not "locked" to the center axis of the extrusion. I compared the wye you shared to the wye that I have and the only difference I see is the "face" the connections sit on. I'll share mine so you can compare and maybe you can see a way to fix that one.