Pipe FITTING doesn't respond to size change and doesn't raise it's size!!!!

[elham.calm]

I have revit 2016 and I have big problem
pipe fitting especially elbow doesnt respond to size chang and doesnt raise its size, i dont have revit.ini on my PC , please help me

[rudi.roux · Accepted solution]

Hi @elham.calm, 

Hope your well.

The Default Lookup Tables can be found under: (Copy and Paste the text below and follow the instructions below)

C:\ProgramData\Autodesk\RVT 2016   (default directory destination)

Past the directory which I provided above in an explorer window as shown above. 

This will open the following folders as shown below:

That would be the first step, to locate or save your lookup tables in the correct location. 

Next, you would have to check to see if your Revit.ini file is referring correctly to your lookup tables. 

Can you see the UserDataCache Folder in the image above? Your Revit.ini file is located in that folder. 

Do you know where to find lookup tables within a family? 

Your using Revit 2016, so that means that the you'll have access to Pipe Fittings under your Libraries Folder as per my second image. 

When you load and fitting into your project (just to explain this), click on Edit Family >> click on the Family Types icon under Modify >> Properties.

This will open the Family Types, to the bottom right of the window that opens, you'll notice the Lookup Tables >> Manage... Button. 

Click on it to open the window which you'll see to the right below, there is and Import... Button which can be used to load the appropriate lookup table for the connector/fitting. 

I also attached the default Lookup Tables for Revit 2016 if you're struggling to locate yours. 

I hope this helps! 

[elham.calm]

@Anonymous thank U 😊

[robert.klempau · Accepted solution]

Hello @elham.calm,

Is the problem you posted solved with the solution @rudi.roux added?

If so would you be so kind and mark this as an Accepted Solution.

[elham.calm]

@Anonymous GREAT ✌🏽✌🏽✌🏽✌🏽

[rudi.roux]

@elham.calm, only a pleasure! 

[elham.calm]

I have another question
I have some families that I dont have *.csv format, I make *.txt format from R>>Export>>Family type and then open it wiht excel and save (MS-DOS) *.csv format
but it isn't correct
Can you teach me to make correct csv file from any families?
thank U 😉

[elham.calm]

Hello @Anonymous
I have another question
I have some families that I dont have *.csv format, I make *.txt format from R>>Export>>Family type and then open it wiht excel and save (MS-DOS) *.csv format
but it isn't correct
Can you teach me to make correct csv file from any families?
thank U 😉

[elham.calm]

I want to use this file to Lookup Table

[Anonymous]

My firm is having a similar issue - but I'm not sure if this is the same problem or not. 

Whenever we make pipes with fittings, it seems like the fitting is 'locked in' to the size it's originally made as. For example, if I have a 3/4" water line that we tee off into another 3/4" branch, the tee is set as a 3/4" tee - this works well:

But if I later change the size of the pipe to 2", the tee remains a 3/4" tee, even though all pipes running into the tee are 2"! Revit autocorrects and puts in transitions from 2" to 3/4", but I'd prefer Revit change it to a 2" tee altogether. Will this fix you have outline fix our problem? See the attached images.

[fabiosato]

Hello,

It seems that you fitting family is missing the lookup table, were did you get it?

If it is the Revit OOTB content, maybe the lookup directory has been moved or removed.

[Anonymous]

Hello,

I have been trying to get this resolved in my Revit 2018 program and can't seem to get it to work.  The tablelookuplocation is shown to be correct and I've even reloaded the table in my family properties and just can't get the fitting to be the right size.  

Any other options or things I should be looking for?   Currently I am using a "Elbow - Generic" which is looking for a "Pipe Fitting - Generic"

They show up small on my cold water system but fine on my hot water system.  I can't seem to locate the issue... 

[Anonymous]

Is there any information available about creating lookup tables correctly to solve this problem?

[fabiosato]

Hello,

Try this link.

[Anonymous]

@rudi.roux  I love the way you explained !

Thank you very much.🤗 

[rudi.roux]

It's a pleasure @Anonymous - I'm glad it helped you 🙂

[Anonymous]

@rudi.roux  Really ,,, the way you explained is appreciated !!

Thank you very much...!

[carmaister]

Hello

I have already checked any useful answer from any similar topic but I can't find the solution to my answer unfortunately. 

The problem is that the family I have created works perfectly when I type the diameter size but when uploaded into any Revit project it doesn't change at all when I type a different pipe Diameter parameter. I expect both pipe and reducing bush to have the same digited Diameter size if you know what I mean?

1. I have created a reducing bush family in Revit 2019. Generic model template. Pipe fitting.

2. I have imported a csv file table to look up at.

3. Any created parameter (which refer to a manufacturer catalouge Reducing bush) is under pipe discipline - pipe size.

5. I made sure the .ini file is in the right local drive folder and that the "lookup Table..." row in the .ini file point to the right folder where the .csv file is. 

6. I don't understand whether or not the parameter "Diameter" is the one which, once the family is uploaded in any new revit project, Revit considers as the one which make any pipe and fitting size changing accordingly? If so, is this an automatic process or should I set anything?

Not sure what is wrong. Could you please help?

Lookup table location

.ini text file folder path 

I read about any ENULookup row but there isn't

Any question please ask. Thank you.

[iainsavage]

In older versions the lookup table was held and read as an external file.

In newer versions (I think maybe 2017 onwards), the Lookup tables are created and saved in csv format but are then imported into and embedded into the family rather than being kept as an externally referenced file.

Paths to the csv file are therefore irrelevant for 2019 - you need to import the csv file into the family using the manage lookup tables > import option.

(Type catalogues are different - they are still kept as separate files)

[carmaister]

Hi iainsavage

Thanks for the response. I did actually imported the .csv file into the manage lookup table. Is this what you meant? If so, it looks like this is not the reason why I can't seem to get the table read within my family. It does actualy works in the revit family model. The parameters are read from the .csv table. However, they are not read once the family is loaded into a project model instead. Any other suggestion? 

Cheers