How do I know which families are hosted or not?

[Anonymous]

Is there a list somewhere? For example, Under Electrical Devices I find
"Switch-Single: Single" which is "wall based" but I also have "Lighting
Switches : Single Pole" which is face based. One works with a linked arch
file file, one doesn't but they have different properties. It's very
confusing. Right now my electrical group is at a standstill because they
can't put switches in the model...

Is there a way to quickly "un-host" something that is wall hosted?

[Anonymous]

I'm also very insterested in this.

According to this post and another post mentioning that only face-based can be attached to a linked architectural model, does that mean that all MEP objects we create that would otherwise be wall-based should be done face-based?

If various disciplines are going to be working together by means of sharing models in a linked state, what's the point of the different templates? As one would assume you must (from MEP's point of view) always go for the most general of the templates if is to work with linked models.

Regards,

Jose

[Anonymous]

From our experience, you can't do face based either. The objects must be
completely "un-hosted". Otherwise when you update the linked model, if any
of the "faces" moved any objects assigned to the face must be deleted before
you can open the project.

wrote in message news:5561139@discussion.autodesk.com...
I'm also very insterested in this.

According to this post and another post mentioning that only face-based can
be attached to a linked architectural model, does that mean that all MEP
objects we create that would otherwise be wall-based should be done
face-based?

If various disciplines are going to be working together by means of sharing
models in a linked state, what's the point of the different templates? As
one would assume you must (from MEP's point of view) always go for the most
general of the templates if is to work with linked models.

Regards,

Jose

[Anonymous]

That means that if we create new families of receptacles/sockets they will have to be done completely un-hosted. So all that intelligence about the way objects are hosted into others is lost for MEP objects, as we are not in control of the architectural model... I'm wondering if this is something really bad or it is not, since people seem to be working with Revit MEP...

Regards,

Jose

[Anonymous]

I has been my experience - and I truly and sincerely welcome
comments/testimonials to the contrary - that the folks who have things
working as intended with the MEP side are those who are working directly in
the model and NOT working with a linked arch model.

wrote in message news:5567003@discussion.autodesk.com...
That means that if we create new families of receptacles/sockets they will
have to be done completely un-hosted. So all that intelligence about the way
objects are hosted into others is lost for MEP objects, as we are not in
control of the architectural model... I'm wondering if this is something
really bad or it is not, since people seem to be working with Revit MEP...

Regards,

Jose

[Anonymous]

Wow, interesting idea:

"the folks who have things working as intended with the MEP side are those who are working directly in the model and NOT working with a linked arch model."

Is it possible then to have two teams, one on Revit Architecture 2008 and the other on Revit MEP 2008 working on the same model? Can someone from Autodesk confirm?

But this brings another question regarding content. It is hard to create all you need. And nice once you have created it to be able to use it in other projects. But with this two approaches to work on a project, either with the architecture as a link or as part of the model, the objects would need to be different for each one of these approaches...

Let me put an example. Hangers. Does Revit come with a family for them? I can't see one right now, but if it does not, how would you make such a family? Ceiling-based? If you work on an architectural model as a linked reference, wouldn't that keep you from using that family? Face-based? It would still need to be hosted, so again, this wouldn't work. Standalone?

Has anyone thought of the cons of not having it attaching to the ceiling/roof? Are there any cons?

Regards,

Jose

[Anonymous]

Hmmm, just thought of something. I can't find hangers, but there were light fixtures. Sure enough, Autodesk must have thought about the problem, let's see how it is resolved with light fixtures... ok, they need their host, the ceiling.

Now, I guess what comes next is to try to host it on a linked model.

Regards,

Jose

[Anonymous]

Well, does work fine. I also tried to move walls on the linked architecture file to see what would happen, and the fixtures attached to the wall just moved with it. I believed they would cause a warning and be deleted, but that must be if the wall/ceiling hosting them would have been removed?

Looking much better now!

Regards,

Jose