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Make all Family Categories Cuttable

Make all Family Categories Cuttable

Give all families the option to be cuttable. It is a bit ridiculous we don't have the option to do this regardless of whether or not you'd normally do it for certain things such as furniture or MEP.

 

My drawings have plumbing fixtures that look out of place compared to the rest of the elements in the section.

62 Comments
Studioearl
Contributor

using 2022 (w/the latest updates) and still not available in plumbing (ofc, that means no sinks, really? )  or generic models (again, really?). When will these be added?

 

When searching Autodesk the latest chart/table on this is from 2020. If things have changed, they should update or have a new post. Suggest putting in a new chart with all the info cuttable vs cuttable on the same chart/table. Example:

 

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Also, would be beneficial if it was more clear. I have to google many places (not autodesk) to get how this works and or work arounds until it gets  a better resolution.  See this link for suggested level explanation that would help the user:

http://revitstickynotes.blogspot.com/2011/11/2d-symbolic-line-show-only-if-instance.html

 

 

You might be glad to learn that this Revit idea was implemented in Revit 2023 :).

 

You can now decide whether or not your plumbing/furniture/furniture system/specialty equipment family should be cut by the view or not.

 

That same checkbox is also available for imported objects now as well.

dfoth
Advocate

Why has this not been done yet? Our firm has to use the Site category in order to have the family show cut. Its super frustrating. Mechanical Equipment is a great category because you can rotate the family in sections BUT it does not show cut. We shouldn't have to use "shared generic model" families embedded into a Mechanical Equipment family in order to have the family show cut and be rotate-able. The show cut checkbox needs to be added to the Mechanical Equipment family template. Add it to all categories please. We're sick of all these work arounds just to get our views set-up. 

npicht
Community Visitor

It has always been frustrating to have to change families to Generic Models just to get the visibility we need in a view. It is astounding that the 'Generic' family seems smarter and more capable than the 'Mechanical' family.

Please add this option for all families.

C_Ran
Explorer

It would be nessecary for any Food-Service-Equipment Organizer that we are able to cut Objects which are classified as "Catering-Equipment"

As far as we know this Category is new since Revit22 for a better sorting Option so we don´t have to use the

"Speciality-Equipment" any longer,

but as long as there is no cutting through Ability in the "Catering Equipment" sadly is it not useable for us, because without the Possibility to cut a Sink out of a Desk made of 3mm metal sheet for example, its useless.

 

My concern is to enable the cutting Option in the Catering-Equipment Catergory, so it is useful at all.

javier.perezmarin
Participant

Still until today some furniture, generic model graphic lines are showing above the partition lines. This makes no sense at all. We need to be able to control that

Leszek_Golubinski
Contributor

so... anything new in this area of development?

purvigirwin
Advocate

@Leszek_Golubinski I did a comparison of 2019 and 2023. There are a few categories that are now cuttable - furniture, furniture systems, plumbing fixtures, speciality equipment. There are also a number of new categories that are almost all cuttable. You also have the ability for many new families to choose for them to be cuttable when you create them. From a quick look, it appears that the option to "enable cutting in views" is available for all the categories that I listed above that were previously not cuttable, or any of the new categories creates since, that are cuttable.

 

In the attached image, in the 2023 column, all the categories that were made cuttable since 2019 are circled in red. All the new categories since 2019 are circled in green. At the right is the dialog box in the family editor where you can specify cutability. 

 

There has been some progress made. My understanding from taking to the Revit development team, is that it's not something that can easily be done all at once, as the coding for the software was done incrementally by many different teams over time, so it takes time to go in and update them all. 

 

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I agree that a lot of progress has already been made. The category I would like to see tackled next is lighting fixtures, especially for fixtures like cove lights, which tend to wrap an entire room. Not being able to cut those in a section is problematic as the cove will cover up the ceiling (instead of being behind it).

dfoth
Advocate

@purvigirwin 
Its nice to hear the reasoning for the delay from the Revit Development team. That makes sense. The category that my firm would love to be cuttable is Mechanical Equipment.
We used to have a mixture of non cuttable Mech Equipment and cuttable Generic Model families in projects. It started to cause a lot of confusion, so now we only use Generic Model families.   

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CEdwardsUN5MX
Advocate

This could have a subheading of: "Another partly implemented feature, that urgently needs an update"

kimbD79KU
Enthusiast

Agree, we have had to make our shower stalls generic components just so we can see the stall walls in elevation.  This is a real bummer considering as architects we have to show ADA compliance heights etc.

dfoth
Advocate

Can we get a checkbox to allow families to be rotatable as well?

dfoth
Advocate

Make Enable Cutting in views for Mechanical Equipment. The workarounds are a huge pain to manage. 

hwo_osa
Advocate

@purvigirwin Interesting, thank you for postig this comparison.

Looks like every  "new" family category (that has been introduced since R2019) now has the ability to let the user decide if the family should be cut or not, indicating that this is the new "default" behaviour for families.

Now someone only has to update all the existing pre-2020 categories...

dfoth
Advocate

@kimberly_fuhrman-jonesCan you post a link to where this is on the roadmap? I don't see it. We desperately need it for Mechanical Equipment. If Revit 2027 has this one new feature, I wouldn't even read about the rest of the new features. I would see this feature, stop everything I was doing, put out a companywide message, and we would deploy and upgrade everything to R27 immediately. I'm being dramatic but that's how bad we need this feature. 

Hi, @dfoth ,

 

This specific feature request does not show on our public roadmap, however it is part of our ongoing general modeling improvements. Hope that helps!

dfoth
Advocate

@kimberly_fuhrman-jones thanks for the reply.
Hopefully the devs see me wearing this at AU this year. 😁
My intention is to bring awareness to the issue and push it up in importance, and be a bit cheeky. All in good fun though.   

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@dfoth HaHa! I love it. See you there!

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