Revit 2019 - Bewehrung Eisenliste generieren

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Revit 2019 - Bewehrung Eisenliste generieren

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Guten Tage liebe Revit Community

 

Ich versuche eine Bewehrungsliste zu erstellen. Da wir in der Schweiz die Listen nicht auf den Plänen darstellen, sehen diese etwa so wie gemäss PDF aus.

 

Problem 1:

Die abgewickelte Länge wird in der Bauteilliste von Revit aus der Achse gemessen. Dies hat zur Folge, dass in der Liste die abgewickelte Länge nicht stimmt. Diese Länge muss das Aussenmass sein.

Mein Lösungsansatz wäre hier ein neuer Parameter, welcher ich aus den verschieden Teilmassen A, B, C usw. zusammenrechne. Leider funktioniert dies nicht immer das z.B. bei manchen Eisenformen die Seiten A, B, C usw. mehrmals vorkommen.

 

Problem 2: 

Die Figuren, welche ich den Formen hinzugefügt habe, kommen mit dem Export leider nicht mit. Gibt es hier eine Möglichkeit diese mit einzubinden?

 

Problem 3:

Gibt es eine Möglichkeit aus den Listen eine .abs Datei zu erstellen? Diese brauchen die Eisenwerke um die Daten direkt in die Biegemaschinen einzuspeisen.

 

Als zusätzliche Info: Meine Liste ist in Excel aufgebaut und eine Lösung mit dem Sofistik Plugin ist aus diversen Entscheidungsgründen zu vernachlässigen.

 

 

Vielen Dank im Voraus und Freundliche Grüsse


Revit 2019.2

Windows 10 Enterprise x64

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Hallo,

 

stehe vor dem ähnlichen Problem.

 

zu 1) Ich habe in der Familie der Bewehrung einen gemeinsam genutzten Parameter ergänzt (Länge), der die Längen A, B, C etc. addiert. Funktioniert aber leider nicht beim geraden Stab wenn die Bewehrung über einen Verlegebereich erstellt wird.  

 

zu 2) und 3) kann ich nichts sagen

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Vielen Dank für deine Antwort.

 

Für Nr. 1) habe ich nun einen ähnlichen Ansatz gewählt. In der Familie der Bewehrungsform sind Parameter ergänzt worden, welche ich nutzen kann für das Addieren der Gesamtlänge.

 

Nr. 2) ist mir immer noch ein sehr grosses Anliegen. Hat vielleicht jemand Erfahrung mit Dynamo oder XML und Wordvorlagen? Kriegt man über eine dieser Varianten die Biegeformen als Bild in eine Liste exportiert?  Diverse Varianten enden bei mir immer in Textform.

 

Nr. 3) ist für mich in Moment sekundär. Eine Lösung für Nr. 2) steht für mich im Vordergrund.

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Hallo @Anonymous ,

alle drei deiner Wünsche an Revit sind möglich mit dem Plug-In SOFiSTiK Reinforcement Detailing. Dieses findest du hier im AppStore. Ist auch als kostenlose 30 Tage Testversion verfügbar. Warum hast du dich dagegen entschieden, es zu verwenden?

 

=>P.S. Zur Bewehrungsplanung werden auch Schulungen/Workshops in der Schweiz angeboten. Smiley (fröhlich)

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Hallo @bjoern_teutriene 

 

Das Plugin von Sofistik wurde schon getestet. Leider sind gewisse Punkte für mich nicht zufriedenstellend und deshalb habe ich mich gegen diese Variante entschieden.

 

_ Eisenlisten konnten nur für einzelne Bauteile oder Pläne erstellt werden. Es ist aber möglich dass mehrere Bauteile in einer Etappe sind und auch mehrer Etappen auf einem Plan sind. Die Listen sollten aber auf die jeweiligen Etappen aufgeteilt werden.

_ Um eine Eisenliste zu erstellen, sind sehr viele Klicks notwendig. Dies braucht gegenüber der klassischen Erstellung (2D in AutoCAD) viel mehr Zeit.

_ Nutzt man nicht das Sofistik Template sind teilweise seltsame Reaktionen in der Darstellung möglich. Es ist aber auch nicht gewünscht das interne Standard Template durch das von Sofistik zu ersetzten.

_ Generell ist man sehr stark an die Vorgehensweise von Sofistik gebunden, was nicht immer mit dem eigenen Vorgehen kombinierbar ist. (persönliche Einschätzung/Erfahrung)

 

Aus meiner Sicht sollte es möglich sein ohne ein Plugin durch Revit einen Bewehrungsplan und die dazugehörigen Listen zu erstellen. Ansonsten sehe ich Revit aktuell für Bewehrungspläne/-listen nicht geeignet.

 

Freundliche Grüsse

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Hallo Patrick,

vielen Dank für deine Einschätzung und konstruktive Kritik. Den ersten Punkt mit den "Etappen" gebe ich gerne an den Produktmanager weiter. Zur Klärung der weiteren genannten Punkte müssten wir uns bei Bedarf weiter außerhalb des Forums austauschen, ob da noch Optimierungsmöglichkeiten bestehen.

 

Viele wollen Revit ohne Apps nutzen, aber ich sehe das generell wie mit den Smartphones: Wer sich ein Smartphone zulegt und keine Apps installieren möchte, muss sich mit den Standardfunktionen zufrieden geben. Ein Leben ohne Apps könnte ich mir nicht vorstellen. Herz Smiley (fröhlich)

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Hallo @bjoern_teutriene 

 

Das Revit mit Apps genutzt werden sollte, damit man den vollen Umfang nutzen kann, gebe ich dir bedingt recht. Aber wir können gerne dies ausserhalb des Forums detaillierter anschauen.

 

Falls es für dich ok ist, habe ich dir eine Linkedin Anfrage geschickt.

 

Freundliche Grüsse

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We use 6 Sense to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by 6 Sense. Ads are based on both 6 Sense data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that 6 Sense has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to 6 Sense to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. 6 Sense Privacy Policy
Terminus
We use Terminus to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Terminus. Ads are based on both Terminus data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Terminus has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Terminus to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Terminus Privacy Policy
StackAdapt
We use StackAdapt to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by StackAdapt. Ads are based on both StackAdapt data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that StackAdapt has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to StackAdapt to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. StackAdapt Privacy Policy
The Trade Desk
We use The Trade Desk to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by The Trade Desk. Ads are based on both The Trade Desk data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that The Trade Desk has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to The Trade Desk to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. The Trade Desk Privacy Policy
RollWorks
We use RollWorks to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by RollWorks. Ads are based on both RollWorks data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that RollWorks has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to RollWorks to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. RollWorks Privacy Policy

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