Wood framed walls in revit

[DrakeCanyonArchitecture]

I know there has to be a way to do this in Revit, but looking for some direction. I want to be able to display wall elevations in Revit with Stud layout, channels, etc. I've found a few Add ons, but nothing that looks like what I'm trying to do. This would be basically creating walls exactly a they will exist in the real world, header sizes, stud lengths, rake wall, etc. I've considered creating families with parameters that would control the header sizes, window/doors sizes etc. but not sure how I would continue stud layout through those openings or to be able to place multiple openings within that family. It seems like this should be a feature already included in the software. Although I know a lot of people may not need such a feature, I know Revit prides itself in being true to life. It could be extremely useful to a lot of us. 

[barthbradley]

Use beams/beam systems and columns. This is the intelligence that those expensive wood framing add-ons - such as Strucsoft and AGACAD - are built on.   

Curtain Walls work well too.

 

...all the framing (i.e. studs, headers, plates, etc.) are Mullions on Grid Lines. 

[constantin.stroescu]

I'd rather use Curtain Walls with Empty Panel , as shown in the second part of my screencast:

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/screencast/Main/Details/5fc...

[DrakeCanyonArchitecture]

Thank you both for your input! That gives me a good starting point. Is there one method or the other that would be preferable for being able to extract the data for each component? Such as stud lengths, header sizes, etc? I'm familiar with creating schedules, just wondering which of these methods would be more friendly for creating cut lists.

[barthbradley]

You can employ Schedules for that.  

[constantin.stroescu]

An example of scheduling timber from the Framings:

[constantin.stroescu]

in fact the Length of the elements in CW method is correct only as total value and the timber volume...Element's length is not accurate because the elements are split by grids...

[ToanDN]

Are you producing framing shop drawings?

[DrakeCanyonArchitecture]

@ToanDN 

Yes. Cut lists actually.

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

While I love tinkering with Revit built-in tools to go above and beyond, I would look at some add-ins if I did this long term and for living.

http://www.aga-cad.com/products/bim-solutions/wood-framing-extensions-for-revit#:~:text=Wood%20Frami...

[constantin.stroescu · Accepted solution]

If your purpose is to create shop drawings and accurate lists then you'll have to choose a third party plugin.

I'm using for the moment a trial version of MWF Pro Wood Lite ( the trial period is something around 6 month or so..)

http://info.strucsoftsolutions.com/mwf-pro-wood-lite

[DrakeCanyonArchitecture]

Thank you both for your input! I will look into these add ins.

[barthbradley]

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@DrakeCanyonArchitecture wrote:

I will look into these add ins.

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Look into your wallet first.  You'll need about $5000 for StrucSoft MWF.  

[DrakeCanyonArchitecture]

@barthbradley I checked my pocketbook, no bueno. We are currently using AutoCAD to accomplish this. It feels like Revit would be much more efficient.  I'm a bit of a compulsive thinker, maybe eventually I'll figure this out. A lot of the fun is in finding a solution. 

[constantin.stroescu]

Now, if you work in Revit 2017 or another previous versions , you'll be able to use Revit Extensions >Modeling >Wood Framing

You'll be able to do here a Structural Framing (Beams) Schedule and all will be OK.

If you work currently in a higher version of Revit , you'll be able to upgrade this file to the new Revit Version.

You will be not able anymore to use the Extension application but you'll be able to change the timber frame items position and to add manually other items.....

....All this with no extra costs...

That is one of the reasons that I'm still keeping Revit 2017

[barthbradley]

Timber Frame REX is available in 2018, which is still supported and available for immediate download if you are a Autodesk subscriber. Only thing is that Timber Frame is pretty rudimentary and has some frustrating limitations. For instance, it won't do Gable Walls. But, it's free, so it can't hurt the pocketbook to check it out.  Still, I betting you will eventually learn to love Beams and Columns and/or Curtain Walls.   

[wr.marshall]

Just created this idea

Walls with Frame Layer as used in a stud wall