Why does Revit only get 85-90% the way there w/ typical graphics/ annotations

[Anonymous]

Revit can do so much, yet it never seems to close the deal.   Whatever graphic representation of the model used or added annotations, it never creates a complete quality graphic drawings in somewhat of a straightforward manner.   The last 10-15% always requires enhancement, lies, cheating, or work-arounds.   So tired of trouble-shooting !  I sure would like to be productive in my work.  This is a constant fight.

[Anonymous]

Things change, and then they don't. Not too many yet putting together a building without paper documents. That change may come but it ain't here yet.

[RobDraw]

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@Anonymous wrote:
My gridlines bubbles periodically get all screwed up, don't know why. I have made no modifications to gridines (that I was aware of) that should lead to this. It happens too often. Pinning and locking doesn't seem to make a difference. How can I keep the grids, alignment and bubles from changing once they have been set. I am the only one working on the project. I'd appreciate your opinion.

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I've never seen that happen even when running coordination reviews. Has to be user error.

[Anonymous]

User error for sure, but somehow I think Revit is trying to think for me in some manner too. I've heard dragging a crop window around and crossing a gridline can trigger such things but it only effects some of the gridlines not all of them.

[georgehobel]

Man you guys are brutal..... but not as tough as my wife... she makes me walk when I run out of gas

[ToanDN]

If someone unknowingly stretches the 3d extent of the grid in a different view thinking it is just the 2d extent then it can screw everybody else.

[RobDraw]

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@Anonymous wrote:
User error for sure,

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Okay, get that one out of the 10% to 15% graphical inadequacies of Revit.

Next?

[Anonymous]

"Unknowingly" is the key word there. Is there any way to prevent it ? lock down the grids in particular ? other than "just don't unknowingly do that in ANY of a hundred views". No sort of management control of critical items ? There's just too much opportunity to unknowingly screw things up. I manage to find the ways.
How would I know the 3D extent of a grid ?

[chrisplyler]

Re. the gridlines... Wow, I've not heard of that problem before. If you are absolutely the only one to work in the file, then the only thing I can think of is changing crop regions in a view where they are 3D, or assigning/unassigning them to scopeboxes.

I actually use scopeboxes just for the benefits of making grid bubbles line up consistently across views.

What else?

[RobDraw]

Starting another thread for that topic will get you better responses.

Next?

[chrisplyler]

Yeah let's turn this thread around from bickering over a complaint to something useful. Let's hear some more of the specific issues and see if we can't help shomberg push his car from the 85% point to the 95% point, huh guys?

[ToanDN]

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@Anonymous wrote:
"Unknowingly" is the key word there. Is there any way to prevent it ? lock down the grids in particular ? other than "just don't unknowingly do that in ANY of a hundred views". No sort of management control of critical items ? There's just too much opportunity to unknowingly screw things up. I manage to find the ways.
How would I know the 3D extent of a grid ?

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Yes.  3D extent shows an hollow circle with "3d" next to it.  2D extent shows a smaller solid dot with "2d" next to it.  If they read the basic manual of the program they would have know the difference.

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2016/ENU/?guid=GUID-4E36EDA0-2F4E-4619-B568-AC758E8D9770

[Corsten.Au · Accepted solution]

Hi..

Try this..

1. Plan View Place the grids..

2. Section View : Drag them crossing all the levels.

   ( Grids are a combination of 2D and 3D ), if one grid doesn't cross for ex" Basement Level 1, then

  it wont show up in Basement Level 1 Plan..

3. Elevation and Section : CROP the view the way you want extent wise...this will fix

  the grids automatically...if you are not happy with the grid bubble location, then edit the CROP, not bubbles or grids.

Idea is never ever drag Grids, it just shows up correction as long as you CROP the views.. 

whether its plan, elevations, section etc..

NOW coming to the second part... If you ever need to convert the grid dragging point 3D to 2D to manually

extent or clean up the overlapping bubble.. then you are on your own..any adjustment like these wont update entire model.

its view specific..

this would help you understand Grids behaviour..

[RobDraw]

I'd love to discuss how to control grids in a different thread because the OP has a number of complaints about Revit lacking in the graphics department that have yet to be addressed, but seems to be hesitant about listing them.

[RobDraw]

I'm glad to see that being able to control grids covered that 15%. You are truly one of the lucky ones.

[shubham_shri]

If you fill your drawing with too much detail then it will increase the size of the file as well hence better fill only those details which are necessary

[Anonymous]

No, it didn't cover that 15%. I just needed to shut down this conversation string. I had no idea what I would unleash.

[georgehobel]

And now that's all been unleashed....we anxiously await the release of the memo.🙃

[RobDraw]

Guess what, you can't shut it down.

I think the real problem is that you couldn't back up your rant with anything substantial, as you couldn't even provide one example of how Revit comes up short on graphics when there are a lot of them, some of which you wouldn't even come across.