variable thickness wall

[Anonymous]

Hi, 

I am a beginner with Revit and I am trying to create a circular concrete wall of variable thickness but so far without success...

specs of the wall are 

bottom: inside radius, 3700mm; outside radius 4200mm (500mm thick)

top (2000mm higher): inside radius 3700mm, outside radius 4150mm (450mm thick).

to this point I managed to create a mass following this shape but I do not manage to create a "conical wall" with varable thickness...

any tip whould be highly appreciated.

thx

[Anonymous]

Hi, 

I am a beginner with Revit and I am trying to create a circular concrete wall of variable thickness but so far without success...

specs of the wall are 

bottom: inside radius, 3700mm; outside radius 4200mm (500mm thick)

top (2000mm higher): inside radius 3700mm, outside radius 4150mm (450mm thick).

to this point I managed to create a mass following this shape but I do not manage to create a "conical wall" with varable thickness...

any tip whould be highly appreciated.

thx

[loboarch]

Walls in Revit can't have variable thickness. You could make an in place family to do this.

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2017/ENU/?guid=GUID-B63B71A6-E8F2-40C9-9CAC-FFB738C431E4

Or you could add a sweep to the wall family to get the tapered shape.

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2017/ENU/?guid=GUID-54122AE4-F009-42FB-8670-D665598A5A46

Wall sweeps can be add top the type definition of the wall as well.

[loboarch]

Walls in Revit can't have variable thickness. You could make an in place family to do this.

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2017/ENU/?guid=GUID-B63B71A6-E8F2-40C9-9CAC-FFB738C431E4

Or you could add a sweep to the wall family to get the tapered shape.

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2017/ENU/?guid=GUID-54122AE4-F009-42FB-8670-D665598A5A46

Wall sweeps can be add top the type definition of the wall as well.

[ToanDN]

You can create a basic 500mm wall type and a basic 450mm wall type. Then create a stacked wall type based on these two types above.

[ToanDN]

You can create a basic 500mm wall type and a basic 450mm wall type. Then create a stacked wall type based on these two types above.

[Anonymous]

ok thanks for the tips, I will try like that.

[Anonymous]

ok thanks for the tips, I will try like that.

[FGPerraudin · Accepted solution]

Hi André (bonjour André?)

Best way is simply to model your wall in place.

Screencast attached!

Cheers,

François

[FGPerraudin · Accepted solution]

Hi André (bonjour André?)

Best way is simply to model your wall in place.

Screencast attached!

Cheers,

François

[ToanDN]

I take it back. Stacked walls are for stepping conditions. Your wall is conical shaped so you need to use model in place as suggested.

[ToanDN]

I take it back. Stacked walls are for stepping conditions. Your wall is conical shaped so you need to use model in place as suggested.

[Anonymous]

Riddle me this: If it's not possible to have a variable thickness wall, then how do I have this (see image)? I discovered this in my project today and I was stumped. It's a wall and not modeled in-place. Any takers?

[Anonymous]

Riddle me this: If it's not possible to have a variable thickness wall, then how do I have this (see image)? I discovered this in my project today and I was stumped. It's a wall and not modeled in-place. Any takers?

[loboarch]

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@Anonymous wrote:

Riddle me this: If it's not possible to have a variable thickness wall, then how do I have this (see image)? I discovered this in my project today and I was stumped. It's a wall and not modeled in-place. Any takers?

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It is because that wall has "split regions" in it. Because when you create a split region in the vertical section of the wall you are also able to merge the region with an adjacent one. So it is possible (not in this wall because there is only one layer) to merge a thicker layer with a thinner layer that is adjacent. I n that case the function/material is now assigned to layers that have been merged and are 2 different thicknesses, hence "variable". It does not mean you can independently control the thickness of the whole wall structure so it is "variable" the wall is still the same thickness from top to bottom.

In this example the "variable" label looks kind of strange since there is only one layer to the wall. 

[loboarch]

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@Anonymous wrote:

Riddle me this: If it's not possible to have a variable thickness wall, then how do I have this (see image)? I discovered this in my project today and I was stumped. It's a wall and not modeled in-place. Any takers?

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It is because that wall has "split regions" in it. Because when you create a split region in the vertical section of the wall you are also able to merge the region with an adjacent one. So it is possible (not in this wall because there is only one layer) to merge a thicker layer with a thinner layer that is adjacent. I n that case the function/material is now assigned to layers that have been merged and are 2 different thicknesses, hence "variable". It does not mean you can independently control the thickness of the whole wall structure so it is "variable" the wall is still the same thickness from top to bottom.

In this example the "variable" label looks kind of strange since there is only one layer to the wall. 

[Anonymous]

Gotcha. I've never had use for this tool but I understand how it works now. Thanks so much.

[Anonymous]

Gotcha. I've never had use for this tool but I understand how it works now. Thanks so much.

[bechiri.2010]

hi,

how to assign structure property to this wall ( In-place modelled wall)

[bechiri.2010]

hi,

how to assign structure property to this wall ( In-place modelled wall)

[martijn_pater]

That's an interesting question. I don't know if that's even possible, though I could think of some situations you might like to have that option... But perhaps you could model it as structural foundation, although that wasn't really what you were looking for I suppose.

edit: So i was just trying, but it seems like if you model the wall in-place in a structural view, it will be visible there. While in an architectural view, it will not be visible in a structural view... Although that might just be my view settings. edit2: scratch that, it was just a view thing. So... I don't know... see above ^^

[martijn_pater]

That's an interesting question. I don't know if that's even possible, though I could think of some situations you might like to have that option... But perhaps you could model it as structural foundation, although that wasn't really what you were looking for I suppose.

edit: So i was just trying, but it seems like if you model the wall in-place in a structural view, it will be visible there. While in an architectural view, it will not be visible in a structural view... Although that might just be my view settings. edit2: scratch that, it was just a view thing. So... I don't know... see above ^^