Tag in nested families not rotating

[Anonymous]

Hi everyone,

I created a door family with a nested lintel family.

My probleme is that when I tag the nested family (structural framing) the tag is not rotating with the family.

I know that there is some families  remain immune to tagging but the structural framing is not one of them.

Thank you.linteled_door.JPG

[barthbradley]

Works for me. Is the Lintel a shared family? Did you tab-select to Tag it in the Project? 

[Anonymous]

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@barthbradleywrote:

Works for me. Is the Lintel a shared family? Did you tab-select to Tag it in the Project? 

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Hi!

Yes, It's a shared family. However I didn't undertand your second question.

I fogot specify that I'm using a structural framing tag. 

[cbcarch]

Open the Tag Family. Under Family Category and Parameters, check Rotate with Component.
Save/Reload Tag into Project--overwrite w/ parameters.

[barthbradley]

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@Anonymouswrote:

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@barthbradleywrote:

Works for me. Is the Lintel a shared family? Did you tab-select to Tag it in the Project? 

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Hi!

Yes, It's a shared family. However I didn't undertand your second question.

I fogot specify that I'm using a structural framing tag. 

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Use the Tab Key to cycle through overlapping elements. In this case, the host is overlapping the nested shared family. And, yes, I used a structural tag too. It works. 

[Anonymous]

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Hi Barth,

I think the probleme is that when I created my lintel (shared family) I used a Generic Model Family Template and I changed the category to Structural Framing. I have done any tests and It works when I use a Structural Framing Family Template like a lintel.

However the Beam Annotation Tool is blocked now. 

That is an interesting behaviour that I don't understand.

Did you use a Generic Model Family Template too?

[Anonymous]

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@barthbradleywrote:

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@Anonymouswrote:

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@barthbradleywrote:

Works for me. Is the Lintel a shared family? Did you tab-select to Tag it in the Project? 

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Hi!

Yes, It's a shared family. However I didn't undertand your second question.

I fogot specify that I'm using a structural framing tag. 

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Use the Tab Key to cycle through overlapping elements. In this case, the host is overlapping the nested shared family. And, yes, I used a structural tag too. It works. 

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Hi Barth,

I think the probleme is that when I created my lintel (shared family) I used a Generic Model Family Template and I changed the category to Structural Framing. I have done any tests and It works when I use a Structural Framing Family Template like a lintel.

However the Beam Annotation Tool is blocked now. 

That is an interesting behaviour that I don't understand.

Did you use a Generic Model Family Template too?

[barthbradley]

So, I just tested, and I can confirm for you, that it does not work when the Shared Nested Lintel Family is created from a Generic Model Template and then re-categorized to Structural.  Hope this helps you. At least, we figured out why. Bummer though, if it means you got to rebuild a bunch of families.  I feel your pain, dude. 

Good Luck. 

p.s. don't suppose that earns me a little green check mark? 

[Anonymous]

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@barthbradleywrote:

So, I just tested, and I can confirm for you, that it does not work when the Shared Nested Lintel Family is created from a Generic Model Template and then re-categorized to Structural.  Hope this helps you. At least, we figured out why. Bummer though, if it means you got to rebuild a bunch of families.  I feel your pain, dude. 

Good Luck. 

p.s. don't suppose that earns me a little green check mark? 

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ahaha!

A lot of work, yes, at least we found the solution!

Have you tested the beam annotation tool?

When I use a door with a lintel(structural framing family) I can't tag my beams(regular beams) automatically with this tool any more.

I have to hide all doors.

Do you have the same probleme?

Capture.JPG

[barthbradley]

Tag All works for me. Tags both the Host Generic Model Families as well as their Nested Shared Structural Families  -- and the Structural Tags are at an angle!  Sorry.  

[barthbradley]

YES!!!! I see what you mean now! Beam Annotation tool does not work when there are Shared Nested Families in the Project  -- for ANY beam! 

Darn you, @Anonymous! Now this is bugging me too! WTF! 

[Anonymous]

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@barthbradleywrote:

Tag All works for me. Tags both the Host Generic Model Families as well as their Nested Shared Structural Families  -- and the Structural Tags are at an angle!  Sorry.  

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Tag All works for me too. However "beam annotation" doesn't work.Annotation beams.JPG

[barthbradley]

...and this "bug" is replicable -- all day long and twice on Sunday! 

[Jeremy.Oakes]

@barthbradley I know this was years ago but how did you go about constraining the lintel (nested structural framing) length to the door width?