Symbolic lines

[gencheva.desislava]

Hi everyone, this probably has a very obvious answer, but I couldn't solve it myself.

I have this kitchen unit family, consisting of a few different casework families within it. The issue is, elevation swing lines of the casework doors (symbolic elevation swing projection; locked to the relevant door workplanes within their families; not references ) seem to float forward and appear in parallel views of the model. If symbolic lines appear in parallel views to the one they are sketched in, how is it possible to limit their visibility? (attached is plan and a section flipped in both directions)

[martijn_pater]

Are you sure those are symbolic lines?

[gencheva.desislava]

Yes

[MostafaElashmawy]

Are you sure they are symbolic lines and not model lines?

Also you should check their location in the family. May be you draw them in space infront of the family and not on the face of the family.

[RDAOU]

@MostafaElashmawy 

Even if they were model lines, they should not snap out of place between front and lateral elevations...Constrain them to reference planes instead of surfaces and shape edges

[MostafaElashmawy]

Symbolic lines can be found in annotate tab.

[RDAOU]

@MostafaElashmawy  would you mind in the future editing your original response rather than spamming replies? Thank you

[MostafaElashmawy]

@RDAOU but even if he contrained them to the surfaces they should not be away like the photo.

[MostafaElashmawy]

a spam reply would be a reply out of topic.

Like a reply guiding me on how to respond. :😀

I think a message would have been better. 

But yes. Will try to follow your instructions 😇

[RDAOU]

@MostafaElashmawyunlike reference planes when you place elements ON faces/surfaces they are not entirely constrained by that surface even when you lock them to it they do snap out sometime...When you draw on a work plane the element (especially 2D elements) remains constrained to the X,Y of that plane regardless if you lock them or not.

[RDAOU]

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@MostafaElashmawy wrote:

a spam reply would be a reply out of topic.

Like a reply guiding me on how to respond. :😀

I think a message would have been better. 

But yes. Will try to follow your instructions 😇

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Spam is also when one storms people with messages regardless if they are related or not related. And it was not an instruction it was a wish/kind request...It is just annoying to dice a reply into 5 messages...first for us who are subscribed to the post and to the OP and visitors who might find it hard to follow on someone's stream of thoughts 

[MostafaElashmawy]

Regardless the disturbing off-topic posts, to draw on a surface you will need to set it as workplan. That's why usually the lines will stick to the surfaces it's drawn on.

[RDAOU]

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@MostafaElashmawy wrote:

Regardless the disturbing off-topic posts, to draw on a surface you will need to set it as workplan. That's why usually the lines will stick to the surfaces it's drawn on.

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I am not sure since when you have been using Revit but this is a very common behavior which users have been experiencing since the very early versions. To the extent that Autodesk included it as a Warning when working in family editor "advising to Lock and Constrain to Reference planes/Reference line instead of objects"

[martijn_pater]

I don't know what's happening with the lines there, but you could "limit visibility" by setting them to a subcategory to turn on/off in your view. As a workaround, but maybe it is better to upload the family as to have a look at it...

[MostafaElashmawy]

You are correct partially.

The warning you are showing below will never show when you try to draw lines on surfaces as workplanes.

Generally it's better to relate to reference planes. But for this specific case in this specific post, using the surface as a workplane to draw the symbolic lines will never has any subsequences. 

By the way, good that you removed the wrong version of revit from your response.

[RobDraw]

I don't see any spam. Spam is good fried with cheese.

[barthbradley]

@gencheva.desislava : Post the family. I'll just fix it return it to you.  I don't want to post the procedure, for fear that the "spam police" might bust me.   

[MichaelWarwick7522]

Not sure if you ever figured it out, I had a similar problem and ended up using model lines for the casework door swings. I used a nested family for the swings, drew them on the Front reference plane and aligned that to the front reference plane in the cabinet family. Symbolic lines seem to do the opposite of the "Draw in Foreground" option and sometimes mostly behave like annotations and sometimes mostly like model elements. The same issue of the door swings leaking can happen when a section plane extends through a wall which you have a kitchen on the other side of if there is anything in the family that pokes through the wall (like an invisible alignment line on one of the nested components).