Show an Element in Just one View

[mcobb]

This is a common scenario for me: I’ve been working in a project for a while, so there are lots of levels. The client has me expand my work scope to handle some landscaping around the building, so I have to create some new levels. How can I efficiently create a new level that will only be seen in one (or a few) views? It can be a real pain to go back and hide this level in all the existing views in my Revit document. I’m familiar with the approach of applying a selection filter to a view template, but this doesn’t seem to allow me to access the element when I go to the “reveal hidden elements” in an individual view. I do want to be able to reveal this level in certain key views later and it would be cumbersome to create a bunch of view templates just to hide elements. CadDaddy had a great add-in previously for this functionality but it appears to be unavailable for the 2022 version. Any help is greatly appreciated.

[ToanDN]

Do you mean to hide certain levels in section views?

If so, keep them in a workset that default to Hide and turn the workset visible for only the view you want.

[barthbradley]

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@mcobb wrote:

I’m familiar with the approach of applying a selection filter to a view template, but this doesn’t seem to allow me to access the element when I go to the “reveal hidden elements” in an individual view. 

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Use Temporary View Properties to make those Hidden Levels visible in the View when need be.  

 To Override the View Using Temporary View Properties | Revit | Autodesk Knowledge Network

[mcobb]

I'm afraid there is no central model (a non-collaborative enrivonment) and therefore no worksets. Any other thoughts? Yes, I am talking about sections, but also elevations. Sometimes I will create a section detail that will have new levels suddenly appear in them also.  It is probably the most tedious part of my work flow. Love the efficiency of Revit otherwise.

[ToanDN]

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@mcobb wrote:

I'm afraid there is no central model (a non-collaborative enrivonment) and therefore no worksets. Any other thoughts? Yes, I am talking about sections, but also elevations. Sometimes I will create a section detail that will have new levels suddenly appear in them also.  It is probably the most tedious part of my work flow. Love the efficiency of Revit otherwise.

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No central model/ no collaboration is not an excuse for not having worksets.  The only acceptable excuse is when you use Revit LT.

But if you insist, create the Levels with their 3d extent outside the model extent so that your views will not show them.  Then manually stretch the 2D extent of those levels for only the views you need.

[mcobb]

Hi ToanDN.

It sounds like you are saying you save your projects with a Central Model even if you are not collaborating with someone else? It sounds like you see greater functionality with this strategy. Is that correct?

I understand the 3d extents strategy, but sometimes, for example, I want to tag a detail in one copy of a plan, but not in others. No amount of level manipulations can solve this particular challenge.

Regards,

Mike

[ToanDN]

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@mcobb wrote:

Hi ToanDN.

It sounds like you are saying you save your projects with a Central Model even if you are not collaborating with someone else? It sounds like you see greater functionality with this strategy. Is that correct?

Yes.  That is correct.  Worksets are a great asset that can be useful for a lot of things.  Having a central model  and a local file even you work by yourself also gives another level of data protection and backup.

I understand the 3d extents strategy, but sometimes, for example, I want to tag a detail in one copy of a plan, but not in others. No amount of level manipulations can solve this particular challenge.

Not sure if I understand from this example.  Details and tags are view dependent, so they only show in the view you placed them.

Regards,

Mike

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[mcobb · Accepted solution]

Hi ToanDN.

Good point about the details. I think I should have said "Sections".

Even if I don't hear the exact solution to my problem, there is nothing like getting a "what's the problem?" feedback from numerous individuals to incite me to look a little deeper at my workflow :). In this case, I realized I have not been leveraging view templates sufficiently. Your point about saving a selection set and making it a filter was super helpful. I didn't realize I could do that. If I apply this selection set to a very simple view template that is applied to all elevations  and only has this selection filter included in it, the level goes away everywhere. A perfect first step. 

Next, I want to make that element visible in one view, but - as you may recall - I would "reveal hidden elements" on a the view where I would like to show the element selectively and it would not even be present in this hidden elements view. It is probably obvious to many, but it was new to me: This behavior is because the selection set is still applied to the view in the Visibility Graphics Settings of this view (even if the template is not still being applied). 

Solution: After hiding the level everywhere, go to the view where you want to show the level. Remove the view template that was set up to hide the level in question  and disable the selection filter. NEXT!!!(this is the part I missed): Go to the Visibility Graphics and disable the lingering selection filter that is still there (even if the template has been turned off). You should now see your level in one view! Pehaps a few more steps than Caddaddy's add-in but it at least still saves time. If he makes his add-in again for 2011 and 2023, I will probably get it again. I hope this helps.