SCOPE BOXES

SCOPE BOXES

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SCOPE BOXES

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HOW ARE SCOPE BOXES HELPFUL IN REVIT

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ennujozlagam
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Scope box is to control the extent of any datum element such as grids, levels and reference planes. and can also be used to control the extents of the views themselves. you can refer HERE. thanks





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Ilic.Andrej
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We use scope boxes in every project. With scope boxes, you can make the presentation consistent. For example, all floor plans will have same view extents, front/rear elevations will have same view extents and side elevations will have same view extents. Same goes for sections. Controlling datum elements with scope boxes is very useful, especially when you have many levels.

 

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chrisplyler
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One fantastic use of Scope Boxes is when you have a large building that you want to break up into multiple areas on multiple Sheets.

 

You can have one "master overall" working view that isn't ever put on a sheet, and many Dependent Views of it each restricted to a different Scope Box with Matchlines

 

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loboarch
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This help topic has a video I recently created showing how to use scope boxes and how they might benefit a project.

 

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2018/ENU/?guid=GUID-57084384-4D1E-498A-A6F9-CE5C7260A088



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chrisplyler
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That's nicely done, Jeff.

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loboarch
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Thanks!

 

It (scope box) is one of the top searched terms in the Revit help. I have been recently going through and adding information/videos/topics for the most searched terms in the Help to try and make things a little better. 



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chrisplyler
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Could you make a help topic explaining why the devs haven't yet gotten rid of all the dumb hard coded "exceptions?"

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Alfredo_Medina
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@loboarch

 

Is it possible to add a way to rotate a scope box with precision, not by just "eyeballing" the rotation?


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loboarch
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@Alfredo_Medina wrote:

@loboarch

 

Is it possible to add a way to rotate a scope box with precision, not by just "eyeballing" the rotation?


Not that I know of.  Smiley Sad



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loboarch
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@chrisplyler wrote:

Could you make a help topic explaining why the devs haven't yet gotten rid of all the dumb hard coded "exceptions?"


There are only 40 hours in a week!  Might not get to all of them.  Smiley Tongue



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Message 12 of 17

ToanDN
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@loboarch wrote:

@Alfredo_Medina wrote:

@loboarch

 

Is it possible to add a way to rotate a scope box with precision, not by just "eyeballing" the rotation?


Not that I know of.  Smiley Sad


Maybe I don't understand the question, but why not the Rotate tool and enter the angle?

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Alfredo_Medina
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I was referring more to that little "rotate" symbol that is at the corner of the scope box; that one is always by eyeballing... I see now that the common Rotate button does allow us to enter an angle, which I had never tried, (I think). But, still, that doesn't' resolve the issue because the center of rotation cannot be placed with precision in reference to something else (such as a reference plane) because the edges of the scope box don't snap to anything and we can't even dimension its edges.

 

Why will it be good to be able to rotate this with precision? Because sometimes we've had errors such as "can't create section view because the scope box is not exactly parallel (or perpendicular) to the section" (something like that).

 

Also, we've had other errors in which it is impossible to create dimensions in a view because there is very small deviation between the elevation view or section view and the sides of the scope box. 


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ToanDN
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You can drag the rotation grip to snap to anything, even the workplane grid. Of course, it doesn't solve the problem if you need to snap the edges precisely to anything.
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Viveka_CD
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Hi @Anonymous

 

Welcome to the community and thanks for posting on our forum.

Just checking back to see if you have additional questions.

 

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SteveKStafford
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I use the Rotate tool. The boundary edges of the scope box are arbitrary, as is any crop boundary edge they might control. I generally just place the origin of rotation roughly in the center of the scope box region and then type in the specific rotation required.

Usually View alignment issues after rotation relate back to very fussy survey/site related angles, those with decimal values running to the extreme. I add reference planes, putting the origin of rotation at their intersection, if they can help me define the angle by picking instead of typing a value. Hasn’t failed me yet.

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