Revit link: Line style

Revit link: Line style

XXalessio.amodioXX
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Revit link: Line style

XXalessio.amodioXX
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Hi all,

I would like to achieve a column-wall drawing as in pic.

I have tried like in video, but I do not consider it as a parametrical solution. (e.g. fo n column-wall connection)

Any idea?

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Message 2 of 29

martijn_pater
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. Let me revise that .
Why do you want to use a linked file?

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hmunsell
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i agree with  martijn.pater, if this is a structural column and those are structure walls (which they all appear to be) why are they not in the same model? 

 

  • Other than that, using the Lifework tool is typical how i wold do it. the linework that is place should flex with the element it is placed on.
  • you can also play with your VG settings and the Cut column(s) and modify the Lines/Patterns options for the walls and columns categories.

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XXalessio.amodioXX
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Hi,

I will answear shortly.

We have two different modeller for structural part and architectural part within the firm.

I would like them to model separatelly because our project are quite big. I want discipline model be light and handy (Not full of unnecessary data from other disciplines).

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XXalessio.amodioXX
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Hi,

 I was thinking something similar.

May you post some workaround?

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XXalessio.amodioXX
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These are architectural cladding. The model presented is just a dummy project.

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RDAOU
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@XXalessio.amodioXX 

 

I think the below is parametric enough

 

Ask the engineer modeling the columns to nest a Detail Item Family into that of the structural column then:

  1. associate parameters between Detail Item and Column
  2. make the structural column geometry not visible in plan and RCP
  3. make the detailed item visible when family is cut

Optional: You can set various line thicknesses with Yes/No parameters to control conditions for various situations

 

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N1.pngdetail.png

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martijn_pater
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You can get this result by binding the link...

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RDAOU
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@martijn_pater wrote:

You can get this result by binding the link...


 

@martijn_paterevery time you receive a link you bind it? 😂

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martijn_pater
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No definately not, but I don't nescessarily want this join to show as requested. 🙂 If you bind it though, you will get this result. You can replace the group with a new link when available and override the group created.

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RDAOU
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@martijn_pater wrote:

No definately not, but I don't nescessarily want this join to show as requested. 🙂 If you bind it though, you will get this result. You can replace the group with a new link when available and override the group created.


So binding the link gives you by default a column with different line weights on each side? how?

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XXalessio.amodioXX
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I will try to bind and let you know

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XXalessio.amodioXX
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This is not a bad idea but quite time cnisuming.

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martijn_pater
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@XXalessio.amodioXX Have to disagree. The solution given by @RDAOU is not that time consuming really, wouldn't be that much work. If you are going to receive new structural models to relink it's probably better if you have tag annotations etc. which if you bind/reload might loose it's host? But like I said, no I usually don't bind links so I don't know...

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RDAOU
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@XXalessio.amodioXX wrote:

This is not a bad idea but quite time cnisuming.


It took me 1 min to create load and overwrite the column family!!! I am not sure how time consuming that is...you are not applying it on each column separately!!!

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hmunsell
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@RDAOU wrote:

Ask the engineer modeling the columns ...


interesting approach....  i can see that working if done from the beginning. i have enough trouble getting them (my struct group) to make needed changes, much less asking them to make a change so i can see something better in my file. LOL

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ToanDN
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- Copy monitor the structural columns from the link over to your model

- Hide structural columns category from the link

- Edit the structural column family and add symbolic lines matching the plan of the column, keep them under Structure Column projection category so they are thin, load in project

- Join walls with structural columns

 

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RDAOU
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@hmunsell  keen sighted 👍 I am not sure what kind of structural engineer delivers a structural model with the basic OOTB elements the first place!  

 

I just hope the OP do realize that the detail item family one needs for typical construction details in drafting views; its not going to be a wasted effort. If they are delivering those too they might as well use them for the columns and spare him doing the work twice 🙂 

 

 

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martijn_pater
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Thought about copymonitoring actually, guess that just needed a few more steps... n1:)

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XXalessio.amodioXX
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Hi all,
Thanks for your precious information.
I will try all of them and mark a solution afterwards

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