Railing Question: can you use "distance from previous" in the Baluster placement type properties as a maximum baluster placement.

Railing Question: can you use "distance from previous" in the Baluster placement type properties as a maximum baluster placement.

michael.lukowitz
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Railing Question: can you use "distance from previous" in the Baluster placement type properties as a maximum baluster placement.

michael.lukowitz
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I would like to use the "Spread Pattern To Fit" justification rule to automatically calculate baluster spacing instead of having to calculate spacings by hand. In the work I do, the strength of the balusters limit the baluster spacing to 7'-0". As such I would like the "Spread Pattern To Fit" justification to consider the "dist. from previous" property to be a maximum limit instead of a goal.

 

Is this possible? Thank you for your time.

 

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azad.Nanva
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use curtainwall as Railing:

 

 

 

 

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RDAOU
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@michael.lukowitz 

 


@michael.lukowitz wrote:

... As such I would like the "Spread Pattern To Fit" justification to consider the "dist. from previous" property to be a maximum limit instead of a goal.

 

Is this possible? Thank you for your time.

 


It is possible (See image below)

 

Although I see the spreading pattern more useful when using panels/patterns rather than single balusters, what you asked for is basically what the option practically does even with single balusters

 

Below I set the limit to 220 (single segment and multiple segment balustrades used) and it calculates the gap basd on the total length of the rail/pattern considering and using the 220 as a max

 

However, you should note the result may differ based on the configeration of the rail and its host (stair/floor/ramp), with or without sarter posts and corner posts...etc. Nonethless, the dist from previous would still be treated as max value

 

RDAOU_0-1736338137840.png

 

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michael.lukowitz
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Thank you for your response,

 

For some reason my family is not exhibiting the same behavior as shown above. As you can see in the screenshots below there is a 22' railing segment and a 20' railing segment. In each case if you divide the segment length by 7'-0" and round to the nearest whole number you would get 3 baluster spacings. It would appear that Revit is then using 3 railing spacing despite that resulting in 7'-4" baluster spacing. If my family was behaving as you described the 22' segment would have 4 spacings and a spacing value of 5'-6", no? This issue persists for longer runs, and different baluster spacings.

 

Both railings below are standalone.

 

I have tried using generic railing and balusters and am running into the same issue.

 

 

Apologies if there is something I am missing.

michaellukowitz_0-1736373711565.png

 

Thank you for your time.

 

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michael.lukowitz
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Thank you for your response I will look more into this.

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RDAOU
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@michael.lukowitz 

 

The situation may exist...I did say the result my differ based on the over all configuration...The tool is a very powerful one which you could use not just for handrails. In general we use it as an alternative when other tools fail and not vice versa 

 

In your case, if the tool stops at the max 7' which you specified, what should it do with the extra 1' on the rail? You need to define that...

  • should the railing tool split it left and right?
  • add an extra post at the end? or the start?
  • leave 5' 1/2 extenssions both side?
  • shorten the path

See below same rail. Its the same like urs ..it stops at the specified 7' as expected and adds the end rail with a 1' gap from last (can be reversed to place it at the start)

 

RDAOU_0-1736409125461.png

 

If you adjust the spacing of the start or end posts the pattern and use Center Juustification it will look like this  

RDAOU_1-1736409489380.png

 

Remove the start End post and Start Post and it would look like this.

RDAOU_3-1736409604882.png

 

 

 

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ToanDN
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@michael.lukowitz wrote:

Thank you for your response,

 

For some reason my family is not exhibiting the same behavior as shown above. As you can see in the screenshots below there is a 22' railing segment and a 20' railing segment. In each case if you divide the segment length by 7'-0" and round to the nearest whole number you would get 3 baluster spacings. It would appear that Revit is then using 3 railing spacing despite that resulting in 7'-4" baluster spacing. If my family was behaving as you described the 22' segment would have 4 spacings and a spacing value of 5'-6", no? This issue persists for longer runs, and different baluster spacings.

 

Both railings below are standalone.

 

I have tried using generic railing and balusters and am running into the same issue.

 

 

Apologies if there is something I am missing.

michaellukowitz_0-1736373711565.png

 

Thank you for your time.

 


What you show is nothing out of ordinary and is what I understand how baluster spacing and spread pattern to fit work.  What do you expect it then?  We may provide a better answer if we know what the goal is.

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